- From: Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
- Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 10:34:54 +0800
- To: Moses Ma <moses.ma@futurelabconsulting.com>
- Cc: W3C Credentials Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAMXe=SqgSm0V2TaqwoUC4Hf7H+GsQOiAY32d7P-n2Wk7d3idTQ@mail.gmail.com>
Moses I joined the slack channel what meetings did you have that you mentioned? Looks like if you are not looking for opinions this may be the wrong list everyone very opinionated here ....Lol Dave B - have lost the link to the git pls repost with identifiable subject line, thanks Yes DB agreed, terms need to be clear upfront also, I am PaolA with an A at the end cheers PDM On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 1:19 PM Moses Ma <moses.ma@futurelabconsulting.com> wrote: > On 4/2/20 5:09 PM, David Booth wrote: > > Thanks Moses, this project looks impressive. Two quick questions: > 1. What license? Free and open source, I hope? > > Thanks Dave! > > Yes, we'll open source everything for this. Our chance to save the > world... literally. > > 2. Have you contacted the TraceTogether developers? Their web page says > "We are working around the clock to finalise our protocol reference > documents and reference implementation, to open source what we have built", > though I have not yet seen a release announcement. It would be good to > benefit as much as possible from work that has already been done. > > Yes, we'll build on top of what they're doing and have learned. > > We will approach them for a partnership, and push the idea of DIDs, VCs > and interoperability for global travelers, after we have a testing venue > signed up, like a city... with the state or country backing the play? > > Moses > > > > > On 4/2/20 4:33 PM, Moses Ma wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I just wanted to provide an update on our effort to create a fast track > initiative for intelligent privacy-preserving contact tracing... > > A) Things are moving quickly! We're meeting with an interested investor > tomorrow morning, we have some traction in one state and one country > without trying, and we have some running code that gives us a head start. > > B) A number of RWOT participants have asked to help, so we've set up a > Zoom call on Monday for those who are willing to pitch in. This is going to > be a "front line" effort, so we don't have time for opinions. Please let me > know if you'd like to join the call and get to work - it's important you > are ready to contribute code or do some coding or help with fundraising > efforts in a somewhat selfless way. And I apologize in advance to being > bossy and cutting off opinionators, the working model we seek is that of a > cohesive self-optimizing team with a single captain. > > We will be triaging an imperfect solution that would normally elicit a lot > of opinions, but I think our less than perfect app would be much better > than whatever Jared Kushner is planning to roll out through his shadow > committee, if we don't act now. > > Also, if you're out of work because of the pandemic, there is likely paid > work for you in the future via this effort - so stay tuned. > > C) You can download the current project overview here: > https://www.dropbox.com/s/lg05fp5f2d2qxry/COVID-defender%20OVERVIEW.pdf?dl=0 > > The most important strategic move is to declare a two phase release, with > something good but not perfect, with vital features triaged, to be > deployable by early May. Phase II will contain the more visionary stuff to > deploy later in the year. > > And what I'd like to do is form three workteams to brainstorm the > following short term components of the solution: > > 1. Team 1 will focus on a "down payment on Verifiable Credentials" for > immunity management. This needs to include whether a user has > verifiable healthcare experience and can be tapped to support a > second line for relieving front line healthcare workers. > 2. Team 2 will focus on adapting DIDs into a global lightweight UUDID > so users can travel internationally and integrate contact reporting > in some clever way. Interoperability is vital because a patchwork > quilt of silo'ed contact tracers are already being deployed. > 3. Team 3 will require a number of security architects to review our > proposed AI/big data solution - we're going to try to detect > asymptomatic spreaders by analyzing the "wake" of a spreader or > superspreader through a social chain. Our team includes a number of > leaders in the AI/optimization/epidemiology space, but we need for > you to review what they come up with to insure it supports decent > privacy, at least for an application that would normally require > intrusive methods. > > My vision for a workteam is a strong lead, with a team of 3-5 action > oriented self-starters who can code quickly. > > We're limiting the call to 20 participants and we're half full now. So if > you are ready to volunteer to work, please let me know you'd like to join > the call. We'll record it and distribute to everyone else. > > Thanks and stay healthy out there! > > Moses > > > > > > On 4/2/20 8:39 AM, Juan Caballero wrote: > > I found this very clear and didactic questionnaire intended for people > designing or evaluating contact tracers. I thought it might be useful to > disseminate: > > https://cpg.doc.ic.ac.uk/blog/evaluating-contact-tracing-apps-here-are-8-privacy-questions-we-think-you-should-ask/ > > This group needs scribes and multipliers more than opinions, but I'll > limit myself to one: +100 to Adrian's invitation to prioritize > collaboration and model consensus. I don't think our efforts will be of > much use to any public health authorities unless they are cohesive > end-to-end. > > juan > > On 4/1/20 6:59 PM, Paola Di Maio wrote: > > Thank you Moses > > this is exactly what happened to me a week ago or so, as I told in my > response to David Booth who started this thread. > It must have been this technology, but it is deployed > elsewhere as well, below the radar. They may have satellite reach across > borders > it is not limited to one country. > It does not have any approval from the legit government > who does not know this is taking place. Thsi is extra constitutional and > unlegislated > where I am. > (I have been tackled and harassed with this tech before covid by anonymous > secret states > and I now do not take my cell with me when I go out unless I have to.) > Thanks for sharing, so we know this is happening, and the good news is > that I am not crazy. > PDM > > On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 6:12 AM Moses Ma <moses.ma@futurelabconsulting.com > <mailto:moses.ma@futurelabconsulting.com> > <moses.ma@futurelabconsulting.com>> wrote: > > Hey all, > > Israel is now tracking instrusively via cellphones: > > https://www.npr.org/2020/03/19/818327945/israel-begins-tracking-and-texting-those-possibly-exposed-to-the-coronavirus > > /"Big Brother is here," wrote Omer, a young father, on Facebook, > minutes after he received a text message that he'd been close to a > virus carrier the previous week./ > > This is the message they send: > > "Hello. According to an epidemiological investigation, you > were near someone sick with the coronavirus. You must > immediately isolate at home [14 days] to protect your > relatives and the public. ... This information will be used > only for this purpose and will be erased when no longer > needed. Sincerely, public health services." > > Ehud, can you get us more info to sense the ground truth over there? > > I'll be able to say more about our approach, that will leverage > VCs and maybe DIDs, soon... but we're getting traction with one > state and one country's MOH. Things moving quickly! > > Moses > > > > > On 3/27/20 9:55 PM, Ehud Shapiro אהוד שפירא wrote: > > I mentioned the fact that it is open source not as a testimony > for its being good, but as a practical advice for people in > countries that do not have it, so that they can easily adopt it > and adapt it to their own country's needs. > Separately, I have sent an opinion by Adi Shamir (the S in RSA, > a Turing-award winner and a leading authority on security and > privacy). > Be safe, > Udi > > > -- > *Moses Ma | Managing Partner* > > moses.ma@futurelabconsulting.com > <mailto:moses.ma@futurelabconsulting.com> > <moses.ma@futurelabconsulting.com> | moses@ngenven.com > <mailto:moses@ngenven.com> <moses@ngenven.com> > > v+1.415.568.1068 | skype mosesma | /linktr.ee/moses.tao/ > <http://linktr.ee/moses.tao> <http://linktr.ee/moses.tao> > > FutureLab provides strategy, ideation and technology for > breakthrough innovation and third generation blockchains. > > Learn more at /www.futurelabconsulting.com/ > <http://futurelabconsulting.com> <http://futurelabconsulting.com>. > For calendar invites, please cc: > mosesma@gmail.com <mailto:mosesma@gmail.com> <mosesma@gmail.com> > > > Or whet your appetite by reading /Agile Innovation/ > > <http://www.amazon.com/Agile-Innovation-Revolutionary-Accelerate-Engagement/dp/B00SSRSZ9A> > <http://www.amazon.com/Agile-Innovation-Revolutionary-Accelerate-Engagement/dp/B00SSRSZ9A> > | /Quantum Design Sprint/ > > <https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Design-Sprint-Application-Disruptive/dp/1799143864> > <https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Design-Sprint-Application-Disruptive/dp/1799143864> > | my blog at /psychologytoday.com/ > <http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-tao-innovation> > <http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-tao-innovation>. > > NOTICE TO RECIPIENT: THIS E-MAIL IS MEANT FOR ONLY THE INTENDED > RECIPIENT OF THE TRANSMISSION. 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