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Re: Renaming Object Capabilities to Authorization Capabilities?

From: heather vescent <heathervescent@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2018 20:15:19 -0700
Message-ID: <CA+C6qMyvZe3O1ki1bGukuiwMHCvcSE6uEeskv-vXNnd46jH9Gw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Kim Hamilton Duffy <kim@learningmachine.com>
Cc: "=Drummond Reed" <drummond.reed@evernym.com>, Christopher Allen <ChristopherA@lifewithalacrity.com>, Christopher Lemmer Webber <cwebber@dustycloud.org>, Credentials Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>, "Jordan, John CITZ:EX" <John.Jordan@gov.bc.ca>, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
What works for Marina DBW? ;-)

I like Joe’s suggestion, Authorized Capabilities” and zCaps (ht Alan) for
short with the proper pronunciation “zed”Caps.

Also I like this bikeshedding pROcess.

-H


On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 7:09 PM Kim Hamilton Duffy <kim@learningmachine.com>
wrote:

> John wins; we’re done
> On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 5:16 PM Jordan, John CITZ:EX <John.Jordan@gov.bc.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Bikeshed with international slant ...
>>
>> ZedCaps as opposed to ZeeCaps
>>
>> :)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 3, 2018, at 16:04, =Drummond Reed <drummond.reed@evernym.com
>> <mailto:drummond.reed@evernym.com>> wrote:
>>
>> +1 to changing from "object capabilities" and o-cap to something that
>> reflects authorization.
>>
>> Now, on to the bikeshedding (which itself is one of my favorite terms in
>> tech ;-)
>>
>>   *   I really like the way "zCaps" sounds—it's catchy—and although I
>> agree with Christopher that it sounds like zero-knowledge...I suspect that
>> zCaps might only be used with insiders who know the Z stands for
>> authorization.
>>   *   I'm truly torn between "Authorization Capabilities" and "Authorized
>> Capabilities" because, as I understand the way capabilities work, those who
>> have been authorized (delegated) may also authorize (delegate) further.
>>
>> I could live with any of these—they are all improvements.
>>
>> (BTW, this reminds me of why the Sovrin Foundation recently switched
>> terms from "trust frameworks" to "governance frameworks"—we discovered the
>> latter was more intuitive and easier for non-insiders to understand.)
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 2:42 PM, Christopher Lemmer Webber <
>> cwebber@dustycloud.org<mailto:cwebber@dustycloud.org>> wrote:
>> Christopher Allen writes:
>>
>> > On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 4:27 PM Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com
>> <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.com>>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> shortened to "zCaps" for the cool kids in the community.
>> >>
>> >
>> > I am -1 for zCaps as a short. Adding z to things lately has been
>> marketing
>> > speak for zero-knowledge, which ocap is not. And over hyped.
>> >
>> > -- Christopher Allen
>>
>> FWIW, the name "zcap" was inspired by Alan Karp's use of "ZBAC" as a
>> term (intentionally contrasted to RBAC) to inform companies that didn't
>> understand what ocaps were or what domain they might want to apply them
>> to.
>>
>>
>> --
> Kim Hamilton Duffy
> CTO & Principal Architect Learning Machine
> Co-chair W3C Credentials Community Group
>
> kim@learningmachine.com
>
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