- From: Kim Hamilton Duffy <kim@learningmachine.com>
- Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2018 20:58:06 -0700
- To: heather vescent <heathervescent@gmail.com>
- Cc: "=Drummond Reed" <drummond.reed@evernym.com>, Christopher Allen <ChristopherA@lifewithalacrity.com>, Christopher Lemmer Webber <cwebber@dustycloud.org>, Credentials Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>, "Jordan, John CITZ:EX" <John.Jordan@gov.bc.ca>, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
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I get Christopher Webber’s point, but that nudges me in the direction of something like “Verifiable Authorized Capabilities”, which is clearly moving further away from canonical user Marina DBW clarity. On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 8:15 PM heather vescent <heathervescent@gmail.com> wrote: > What works for Marina DBW? ;-) > > I like Joe’s suggestion, Authorized Capabilities” and zCaps (ht Alan) for > short with the proper pronunciation “zed”Caps. > > Also I like this bikeshedding pROcess. > > -H > > > On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 7:09 PM Kim Hamilton Duffy <kim@learningmachine.com> > wrote: > >> John wins; we’re done >> On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 5:16 PM Jordan, John CITZ:EX < >> John.Jordan@gov.bc.ca> wrote: >> >>> Bikeshed with international slant ... >>> >>> ZedCaps as opposed to ZeeCaps >>> >>> :) >>> >>> >>> >>> On Nov 3, 2018, at 16:04, =Drummond Reed <drummond.reed@evernym.com >>> <mailto:drummond.reed@evernym.com>> wrote: >>> >>> +1 to changing from "object capabilities" and o-cap to something that >>> reflects authorization. >>> >>> Now, on to the bikeshedding (which itself is one of my favorite terms in >>> tech ;-) >>> >>> * I really like the way "zCaps" sounds—it's catchy—and although I >>> agree with Christopher that it sounds like zero-knowledge...I suspect that >>> zCaps might only be used with insiders who know the Z stands for >>> authorization. >>> * I'm truly torn between "Authorization Capabilities" and >>> "Authorized Capabilities" because, as I understand the way capabilities >>> work, those who have been authorized (delegated) may also authorize >>> (delegate) further. >>> >>> I could live with any of these—they are all improvements. >>> >>> (BTW, this reminds me of why the Sovrin Foundation recently switched >>> terms from "trust frameworks" to "governance frameworks"—we discovered the >>> latter was more intuitive and easier for non-insiders to understand.) >>> >>> On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 2:42 PM, Christopher Lemmer Webber < >>> cwebber@dustycloud.org<mailto:cwebber@dustycloud.org>> wrote: >>> Christopher Allen writes: >>> >>> > On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 4:27 PM Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com >>> <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.com>> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> >> shortened to "zCaps" for the cool kids in the community. >>> >> >>> > >>> > I am -1 for zCaps as a short. Adding z to things lately has been >>> marketing >>> > speak for zero-knowledge, which ocap is not. And over hyped. >>> > >>> > -- Christopher Allen >>> >>> FWIW, the name "zcap" was inspired by Alan Karp's use of "ZBAC" as a >>> term (intentionally contrasted to RBAC) to inform companies that didn't >>> understand what ocaps were or what domain they might want to apply them >>> to. >>> >>> >>> -- >> Kim Hamilton Duffy >> CTO & Principal Architect Learning Machine >> Co-chair W3C Credentials Community Group >> >> kim@learningmachine.com >> > -- > Heather Vescent <http://www.heathervescent.com/> > President, The Purple Tornado, Inc <https://thepurpletornado.com/> > Author, A Comprehensive Guide to Self Sovereign Identity > <https://ssiscoop.com/> > Author, The Cyber Attack Survival Manual <http://amzn.to/2i2Jz5K> > > @heathervescent <https://twitter.com/heathervescent> | Film Futures > <https://vimeo.com/heathervescent> | Medium > <https://medium.com/@heathervescent/> | LinkedIn > <https://www.linkedin.com/in/heathervescent/> | Future of Security Updates > <https://app.convertkit.com/landing_pages/325779/> > -- Kim Hamilton Duffy CTO & Principal Architect Learning Machine Co-chair W3C Credentials Community Group kim@learningmachine.com
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