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Re: Renaming Object Capabilities to Authorization Capabilities?

From: Kim Hamilton Duffy <kim@learningmachine.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2018 19:07:18 -0700
Message-ID: <CAB=TY86+vXtBpk9JgiAFkbEBjww9r_iju2=snx8O-mEXhz5vUQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Jordan, John CITZ:EX" <John.Jordan@gov.bc.ca>
Cc: "=Drummond Reed" <drummond.reed@evernym.com>, Christopher Lemmer Webber <cwebber@dustycloud.org>, Christopher Allen <ChristopherA@lifewithalacrity.com>, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, Credentials Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>
John wins; we’re done
On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 5:16 PM Jordan, John CITZ:EX <John.Jordan@gov.bc.ca>
wrote:

> Bikeshed with international slant ...
>
> ZedCaps as opposed to ZeeCaps
>
> :)
>
>
>
> On Nov 3, 2018, at 16:04, =Drummond Reed <drummond.reed@evernym.com
> <mailto:drummond.reed@evernym.com>> wrote:
>
> +1 to changing from "object capabilities" and o-cap to something that
> reflects authorization.
>
> Now, on to the bikeshedding (which itself is one of my favorite terms in
> tech ;-)
>
>   *   I really like the way "zCaps" sounds—it's catchy—and although I
> agree with Christopher that it sounds like zero-knowledge...I suspect that
> zCaps might only be used with insiders who know the Z stands for
> authorization.
>   *   I'm truly torn between "Authorization Capabilities" and "Authorized
> Capabilities" because, as I understand the way capabilities work, those who
> have been authorized (delegated) may also authorize (delegate) further.
>
> I could live with any of these—they are all improvements.
>
> (BTW, this reminds me of why the Sovrin Foundation recently switched terms
> from "trust frameworks" to "governance frameworks"—we discovered the latter
> was more intuitive and easier for non-insiders to understand.)
>
> On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 2:42 PM, Christopher Lemmer Webber <
> cwebber@dustycloud.org<mailto:cwebber@dustycloud.org>> wrote:
> Christopher Allen writes:
>
> > On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 4:27 PM Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com
> <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> shortened to "zCaps" for the cool kids in the community.
> >>
> >
> > I am -1 for zCaps as a short. Adding z to things lately has been
> marketing
> > speak for zero-knowledge, which ocap is not. And over hyped.
> >
> > -- Christopher Allen
>
> FWIW, the name "zcap" was inspired by Alan Karp's use of "ZBAC" as a
> term (intentionally contrasted to RBAC) to inform companies that didn't
> understand what ocaps were or what domain they might want to apply them
> to.
>
>
> --
Kim Hamilton Duffy
CTO & Principal Architect Learning Machine
Co-chair W3C Credentials Community Group

kim@learningmachine.com
Received on Sunday, 4 November 2018 02:07:52 UTC

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