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Re: Educational Occupational Verifiable Credentials Survey

From: Kim Hamilton Duffy <kim@learningmachine.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 20:12:27 +0000
Message-ID: <CAB=TY87GUz8VqLQWBs0AZ3PsXyETJD4pKF6O2j2=V9ewbzJ1_w@mail.gmail.com>
To: Steven Rowat <steven_rowat@sunshine.net>
Cc: public-credentials@w3.org
Just to close on this -- Steven, can you (or someone) take the action item
of suggesting an alternative and converting it?

Thanks,
Kim

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 11:43 AM Kim Hamilton Duffy <kim@learningmachine.com>
wrote:

> good question...I'm fine going another route
>
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 11:42 AM Steven Rowat <steven_rowat@sunshine.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2018-03-28 11:08 AM, kim@learningmachine.com wrote:
>> > Google Forms
>> >
>> > We've invited you to fill out a survey:
>> > Educational Occupational Verifiable Credentials Survey
>> > <
>> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScxBQCFb5EetJd8kCmYxcR_dFtSDgBIdyeW1unV6x7HsvUObw/viewform?c=0&w=1&usp=mail_form_link
>> >
>> > Tell us what your interests are and what problems you'd like to
>> > address as part of the W3C CCG Task Force
>> > Fill out form
>> > <
>> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScxBQCFb5EetJd8kCmYxcR_dFtSDgBIdyeW1unV6x7HsvUObw/viewform?c=0&w=1&usp=mail_form_link
>> >
>>
>> Coincidentally, I read this morning (see link below) about Google's
>> collection of data of Google Account holders. They are *completely*
>> thorough. They collect everything done online using their software. I
>> thought I knew what they were collecting, but there is much more than
>> I expected:
>>
>>
>> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/28/all-the-data-facebook-google-has-on-you-privacy
>>
>> And so, there's the possibility that the answers on this survey will
>> be part of a permanent record that can be traced to the respondent.
>>
>> Since, by some interpretations, DID and Verifiable Claims can be
>> viewed as diametrically opposed to Google's business model, knowing
>> who is against them might become important to them, even if they don't
>> care at the moment; they may care more later.
>>
>> Are we supplying them with that information here?
>>
>> I suggest that the Guardian article indicates that the default answer
>> must be yes, unless it can be guaranteed -- or shown beyond a
>> reasonable doubt -- that the respondents and their answers can't be
>> linked through this form.
>>
>> In other words: can my MAC address or ISP address, and/or my name, be
>> linked to my answers here, and stored on Google servers, to be
>> analysed by them later?
>>
>> Or not?
>>
>> If "not", how do you know this?  Saying "Because Google told me so"
>> isn't good enough for me here. ;-)
>>
>> Thanks, Steven
>>
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> Co-chair W3C Credentials Community Group
> 400 Main Street Building E19-732, Cambridge, MA 02139
>
> kim@learningmachine.com | kimhd@mit.edu
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>
-- 
Kim Hamilton Duffy
CTO & Principal Architect Learning Machine
Co-chair W3C Credentials Community Group
400 Main Street Building E19-732, Cambridge, MA 02139

kim@learningmachine.com | kimhd@mit.edu
425-652-0150 | LearningMachine.com
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