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Re: Educational Occupational Verifiable Credentials Survey

From: Kim Hamilton Duffy <kim@learningmachine.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 18:43:25 +0000
Message-ID: <CAB=TY87FPvceRfNj8NQwnTR-6iEqebQFUgSDRSdfFK6LNpKK-Q@mail.gmail.com>
To: Steven Rowat <steven_rowat@sunshine.net>
Cc: public-credentials@w3.org
good question...I'm fine going another route

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 11:42 AM Steven Rowat <steven_rowat@sunshine.net>
wrote:

> On 2018-03-28 11:08 AM, kim@learningmachine.com wrote:
> > Google Forms
> >
> > We've invited you to fill out a survey:
> > Educational Occupational Verifiable Credentials Survey
> > <
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScxBQCFb5EetJd8kCmYxcR_dFtSDgBIdyeW1unV6x7HsvUObw/viewform?c=0&w=1&usp=mail_form_link
> >
> > Tell us what your interests are and what problems you'd like to
> > address as part of the W3C CCG Task Force
> > Fill out form
> > <
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScxBQCFb5EetJd8kCmYxcR_dFtSDgBIdyeW1unV6x7HsvUObw/viewform?c=0&w=1&usp=mail_form_link
> >
>
> Coincidentally, I read this morning (see link below) about Google's
> collection of data of Google Account holders. They are *completely*
> thorough. They collect everything done online using their software. I
> thought I knew what they were collecting, but there is much more than
> I expected:
>
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/28/all-the-data-facebook-google-has-on-you-privacy
>
> And so, there's the possibility that the answers on this survey will
> be part of a permanent record that can be traced to the respondent.
>
> Since, by some interpretations, DID and Verifiable Claims can be
> viewed as diametrically opposed to Google's business model, knowing
> who is against them might become important to them, even if they don't
> care at the moment; they may care more later.
>
> Are we supplying them with that information here?
>
> I suggest that the Guardian article indicates that the default answer
> must be yes, unless it can be guaranteed -- or shown beyond a
> reasonable doubt -- that the respondents and their answers can't be
> linked through this form.
>
> In other words: can my MAC address or ISP address, and/or my name, be
> linked to my answers here, and stored on Google servers, to be
> analysed by them later?
>
> Or not?
>
> If "not", how do you know this?  Saying "Because Google told me so"
> isn't good enough for me here. ;-)
>
> Thanks, Steven
>
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