- From: Stone, Matt <matt.stone@pearson.com>
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:19:01 -0700
- To: Eric Korb <eric.korb@accreditrust.com>
- Cc: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>, Web Payments IG <public-webpayments-ig@w3.org>, Credentials Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CA+w1=RTky17UEDNAeJV-MaQGwZkM+5C=VKm+jMHpBG4aDMZDKw@mail.gmail.com>
+1 for casting goals with a positive outcome -- "improve" is almost always better than "reduce" but... these are good generalized goals, but they don't serve the problem statements. - fraud and identity theft is not in our problem statement, why would we have a goal about it? The goals we're pursuing need to address the problems we're identifying. can we make a goal like - set the foundation for uniform access and share-ability of claims by providing a standards driven, extensible data model for claim data is there a way assert some kind of evidence of success of the goals we express? section 3.2: obviously in "Security is obviously critical" sounds condescending ===== Matt Stone 501-291-1599 On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Eric Korb <eric.korb@accreditrust.com> wrote: > Here are my suggestions: > > In Goals 2.0 > > >> - Reducing online fraud, such as identity theft, by establishing a >> standard way to cryptographically verify 3rd party claims. >> >> >> - Reduced operating costs for verifiable claim issuers and inspectors >> as a result of a common set of technology for expressing and verifying >> claims. >> >> I suggest that using "reducing" doesn't always imply the > right connotation. Perhaps we can turn these goals around to say something > like: > > "Improve detection of fraud,..." > "Improve operational efficiency..." > > Generally, I think we need to state that our goal is to provide an implied > benefit to all stakeholders: issuers, holders and consumers. I think the > tone we have is bit 1-sided - benefits to consumer only. For example: > Issuers want to protect their reputation, holders want to ensure their > credentials are protected, and the consumers what to be confident in their > decisions. > > Lastly, in a previous comment, I suggested that we call out the need for > internationalization. I believe there was support for the idea. Can we > add words that address "decentralized and extensible vocabularies with > built-in internationalization"? > > Eric > > > <https://mail.google.com/> > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com> > wrote: > >> On 03/07/2016 11:17 PM, Ian Jacobs wrote: >> > Here are some comments on the draft charter [1]. [1] >> > http://w3c.github.io/vctf/charter/proposal.html >> >> Thanks for the input, Ian. I'm just getting around to processing your >> feedback now. I've migrated the VCTF draft charter to its new home in >> the WPIG here: >> >> http://w3c.github.io/webpayments-ig/VCTF/charter/vcwg-draft.html >> >> > * The section titled “Goals” does not really express any goals. I >> > think it’s important to state them clearly. >> >> Done. >> >> https://github.com/w3c/webpayments-ig/commit/6ca64ce59d337833013545243920cd46399eb0e8 >> >> There are now a real set of goals listed: >> >> http://w3c.github.io/webpayments-ig/VCTF/charter/vcwg-draft.html#goals >> >> > I also suggest deleting the first paragraph or moving to the ‘About >> > this charter” section. >> >> Fixed. >> >> https://github.com/w3c/webpayments-ig/commit/6ca64ce59d337833013545243920cd46399eb0e8 >> >> The paragraph has been moved to the 'About this charter' section. >> >> > * "The findings suggest that there is consensus to address a >> > @@@narrow set of use cases@@@“ I believe that is a contentious >> > statement and suggest that it be replace by: >> > >> > “The Web Payments Interest Group recommended that the task force >> > draft a charter to determine whether there is consensus within the >> > community (including those interviewed) for the scope of work. >> >> Done. >> >> https://github.com/w3c/webpayments-ig/commit/6ca64ce59d337833013545243920cd46399eb0e8 >> >> > * I think you can delete "Development of this charter was supported >> > in part by the European Union's 7th Research Framework Programme >> > (FP7/ 2013-2015) under grant agreement nº611327 - HTML5 Apps.” >> >> Done. >> >> https://github.com/w3c/webpayments-ig/commit/6ca64ce59d337833013545243920cd46399eb0e8 >> >> -- manu >> >> -- >> Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny, G+: +Manu Sporny) >> Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc. >> blog: Web Payments: The Architect, the Sage, and the Moral Voice >> https://manu.sporny.org/2015/payments-collaboration/ >> >> >
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