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RE: Understanding SC 2.4.8 ( LC-2798)

From: Devarshi Pant <devarshipant@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 20:14:00 -0400
Message-ID: <CAJGQbjtO2zrcdhTkvHurqxHCqEynwur-JcYyZB7QnkZjMETOgA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
Cc: public-comments-wcag20@w3.org
Andrew,

A new technique written to meet 2.4.8 would seem reasonable.

Thanks,
Devarshi
On Aug 20, 2013 9:31 PM, "Andrew Kirkpatrick" <akirkpat@adobe.com> wrote:

> Devarshi,****
>
> I think that the working group agrees that a possible technique exists
> which can help meet SC 2.4.8, but it does not believe that G88 is that
> technique.  Our response was that we intend to develop this technique in
> the future (and we would welcome submission of such a technique also). Does
> this seem reasonable?****
>
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>
> Thanks,****
>
> AWK****
>
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>
> Andrew Kirkpatrick****
>
> Group Product Manager, Accessibility****
>
> Adobe Systems ****
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> akirkpat@adobe.com <akirkpatrick@adobe.com>****
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> *From:* Devarshi Pant [mailto:devarshipant@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 20, 2013 7:54 PM
> *To:* Andrew Kirkpatrick
> *Cc:* public-comments-wcag20@w3.org
> *Subject:* Re: Understanding SC 2.4.8 ( LC-2798)****
>
> ** **
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> In G88, under Description, please refer to the text towards the end that
> reads:
> <quote>
> It may also be helpful for the title to -
> >Identify the site or other resource to which the Web page belongs
> >Be unique within the site or other resource to which the Web page belongs.
> </quote>
> Now compare this, especially the first bullet above, with the Intent under
> SC 2.4.8 that says:
> "The intent of this Success Criterion is to provide a way for the user to
> orient herself within a set of Web pages, a Web site, or a Web application
> and find related information."****
>
> *** It seems that the title on a specific webpage can convey the larger
> context (series of steps, drill down navigational scheme, etc.) using G88,
> and therefore it can be considered as a sufficient technique to satisfy SC
> 2.4.8.****
>
> Devarshi****
>
> On Aug 20, 2013 2:40 PM, <akirkpat@adobe.com> wrote:****
>
>  Dear Devarshi Pant ,
>
> The Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group has reviewed the
> comments you sent [1] on the Last Call Working Draft [2] of the
> Understanding WCAG 2.0 (Public Review Draft) published on 11 Jul 2013.
> Thank you for having taken the time to review the document and to send us
> comments!
>
> The Working Group's response to your comment is included below.
>
> Please review it carefully and let us know by email at
> public-comments-wcag20@w3.org if you agree with it or not before 25 August
> 2013. In case of disagreement, you are requested to provide a specific
> solution for or a path to a consensus with the Working Group. If such a
> consensus cannot be achieved, you will be given the opportunity to raise a
> formal objection which will then be reviewed by the Director during the
> transition of this document to the next stage in the W3C Recommendation
> Track.
>
> Thanks,
>
> For the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group,
> Michael Cooper
> W3C Staff Contact
>
>  1.
>
> http://www.w3.org/mid/CAJGQbjvU6dHvCbnGYK2_vbCMY-aAWXNckN4S0pUuYfr8pUEusA@mail.gmail.com
>  2. http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2013/WD-UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20-20130711/
>
>
> =====
>
> Your comment on :
> > Understanding SC 2.4.8 at
> >
>
> http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/navigation-mechanisms-location.html
> >
> > Problem:
> > The existing set of techniques could include the page title (G88) as a
> > sufficient / advisory technique.
> >
> > Proposed Change:
> > Using page title also serves to orient users on their location. Use
> > G88:
> > Providing descriptive titles for Web pages
> > http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20120103/G88 as a
> > sufficient
> > technique under SC 2.4.8. If the editors feel that the length of the
> > page
> > title string cannot be accommodated in the title bar, consider using
> > this
> > as an advisory.
> >
> > -Devarshi
>
>
> Working Group Resolution (LC-2798):
> The WG thanks you for your comment.  Technique G88 applies to a single web
> page, whereas the intent of SC2.4.8 is to allow the user to determine
> location within a larger context than a single web page (for example, a
> series of web pages).  Therefore, the inclusion of G88 as a
> sufficient/advisory technique for SC2.4.8 does not seem warranted, because
> title contents themselves may not give location information to a user
> within a larger website or web application.  However, we intend to develop
> a future technique which suggests how to implement page titles in a way
> which can address SC2.4.8.
>
> ----
>
> ****
>
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