- From: Makoto UEKI - Infoaxia, Inc. <makoto.ueki@gmail.com>
- Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 09:11:00 +0900
- To: Loretta Guarino Reid <lorettaguarino@google.com>
- Cc: public-comments-wcag20@w3.org
Hi Loretta, Thank you very much for your response. I have additional questions to make points clearer. Q1. My understanding is that, if two items in a chart are touching, a contrast ratio of 3:1 is required (4.5:1 is better and 7:1 is best) and patterns are not required as the chart which has the contrast ratio presents information in a manner that is "not color alone". Am I correct? Q2. What about if two items in a chart are separate? Q3. If there are three items in a chart, patterns should be used as we cannot have three different colors with that ratio. Am I correct? - Makoto 2011/10/21 Loretta Guarino Reid <lorettaguarino@google.com>: > On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 9:52 AM, <noreply@w3.org> wrote: >> >> Name: Makoto Ueki >> Email: makoto.ueki@gmail.com >> Affiliation: WAIC (Japan) >> Document: UW >> Item Number: Understanding Success Criterion 1.4.1 >> Part of Item: Intent >> Comment Type: question >> Summary of Issue: Situation B: Colors for stacked bar chart >> Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change): >> Will SC 1.4.1 be applied to a stacked bar chart? >> >> For example, a stacked bar chart shows two items by using two different >> colors. There are the graph legends near the chart which explains what is >> represented by each bar and color. The patterns are not used. >> >> It might depend on the colors used in the chart. If the colors are black >> and white, will SC 1.4.1 be applied to the image of the stacked bar chart? >> >> In that case, the color differences are used to convey information within >> non-text content. However the patterns are not necessarily needed to convey >> the same information in a manner that does not depend on color. Because >> black and white has sufficient contrast ratio and brightness difference. >> >> Does SC 1.4.1 require the authors to include patterns to any combination >> of colors? >> >> If yes, could you explain the reason why the patterns are needed for black >> and white? >> >> Proposed Change: >> Need an answer from WCAG WG in order to harmonize JIS and WCAG 2.0. >> > ================================ > Response from the Working Group > ================================ > Yes. Lightness/darkness is independent of color and can be used to present > information in a manner that is "not color alone". Black and white is an > obvious example of something which is independent of color vision. > > Unlike WCAG requirements for foreground text against a background, there are > no specific guidelines for how much lightness/darkness (or relative > luminosity) contrast there should be between two items in a chart. It would > seem to differ if they were separate vs if they were touching as in your > example. If touching, a contrast ratio of 3:1 is probably sufficient though > 4.5:1 is better and 7:1 is best (but you cannot have three different colors > with that ratio. > > Patterns can be used when there are more than two or three types of > information to be differentiated. > > Loretta Guarino Reid, WCAG WG Co-Chair > Gregg Vanderheiden, WCAG WG Co-Chair > Michael Cooper, WCAG WG Staff Contact > > > On behalf of the WCAG Working Group
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