- From: Najib Tounsi <ntounsi@emi.ac.ma>
- Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:00:56 +0000
- To: Loretta Guarino Reid <lorettaguarino@google.com>
- CC: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>, public-comments-wcag20@w3.org, public-i18n-core@w3.org
Loretta Guarino Reid wrote: > We have updated H34 per your suggestions. Please note that LRM / RLM are (U+200E / U+200F) in stead of (U+202A / U+202B), which are LRE / RLE. Here are the Bidi Formatting codes in Unicode Strongly-typed RTL / LTR (invisible) character RLM U+200F ‏ ‏ RIGHT-TO-LEFT MARK LRM U+200E ‎ ‎ LEFT-TO-RIGHT MARK Bidi Control characters RLE U+202B dir="rtl" RIGHT-TO-LEFT EMBEDDING LRE U+202A dir="ltr" LEFT-TO-RIGHT EMBEDDING RLO U+202E <bdo dir="rtl"> RIGHT-TO-LEFT OVERRIDE LRO U+202D <bdo dir="ltr"> LEFT-TO-RIGHT OVERRIDE PDF U+202C nothing </bdo> POP DIRECTIONAL FORMATTING Best regards, Najib -- Najib TOUNSI (mailto:tounsi @ w3.org) Bureau W3C au Maroc (http://www.w3c.org.ma/) Ecole Mohammadia d'Ingenieurs, BP 765 Agdal-RABAT Maroc (Morocco) Phone : +212 (0) 37 68 71 50 (P1711) Fax : +212 (0) 37 77 88 53 Mobile: +212 (0) 61 22 00 30 > We have updated the example > in H56 to show the entire title within the rtl span, with "W3C" > enclosed in a nested span with dir="ltr". Thank you for your help. > > Regards, > > Loretta Guarino Reid, WCAG WG Co-Chair > Gregg Vanderheiden, WCAG WG Co-Chair > Michael Cooper, WCAG WG Staff Contact > > On behalf of the WCAG Working Group > > On Nov 16, 2007 10:00 AM, Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org> wrote: > >> Unfortunately, the example shown will produce exactly the wrong result. The >> ", W3C" text must appear inside the span element to produce the expected >> result. >> >> If you change the example, however, you will run into the problem of how to >> show source text in a sensible fashion, since the hebrew is running right to >> left, and W3C must run left to right and be positioned to the left. >> >> I suggest that you describe the source text rather than show it. Eg. "... o >> the left of (i.e. after) the Hebrew text. This can be achieved by enclosing >> the quote in a span, to which the attribute code dir="rtl" has been added." >> >> I would also be tempted to show before and after examples, like those I >> suggested for >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007OctDec/0135.html >> If you want to do that, and need me to help provide examples and >> visually-ordered ascii, let me know. (I didn't do it just in case, because >> it takes a while to create them.) >> >> RI >> >> >> ============ >> Richard Ishida >> Internationalization Lead >> W3C (World Wide Web Consortium) >> >> http://www.w3.org/International/ >> http://rishida.net/blog/ >> http://rishida.net/ >> >> >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: public-i18n-core-request@w3.org >>> [mailto:public-i18n-core-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Richard Ishida >>> Sent: 16 November 2007 15:51 >>> To: public-i18n-core@w3.org >>> Subject: RE: [WCAG2 TECHS] i18n comment 5: H56 source text >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Loretta Guarino Reid [mailto:lorettaguarino@google.com] >>> Sent: 04 November 2007 05:09 >>> ... >>> Please review our resolutions for the following comments, >>> and reply to us by 19 November 2007 at >>> public-comments-wcag20@w3.org to say whether you are >>> satisfied. Note that this list is publicly archived. >>> ... >>> WCAG 2.0 Editor's Draft of May-October 2007 at >>> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-WCAG20-20071102/ >>> >>> ... >>> >>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Comment 10: H56: issues with example similar to H34 >>>> Source: >>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/200 >>>> >>> 7Jun/0046.html >>> >>>> (Issue ID: 1968) >>>> ---------------------------- >>>> Original Comment: >>>> ---------------------------- >>>> >>>> Comment from the i18n review of: >>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20070517/ >>>> >>>> Comment 5 >>>> At http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0706-wcag2-techniques/ >>>> Editorial/substantive: E >>>> Owner: RI >>>> >>>> Location in reviewed document: >>>> H56 >>>> >>>> >>> [http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20070517/Overview.html#H56] >>> >>>> Comment: >>>> The use of the example of source text runs into similar >>>> problems to those described for H34. You can see how I >>>> attempted to explain this in examples at >>>> http://www.w3.org/International/geo/html-tech/tech-bidi.html#r >>>> >>> i20030726.140315918 >>> >>>> --------------------------------------------- >>>> Response from Working Group: >>>> --------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>> Thank you for helping us improve this technique and the >>> example. The code example now reads: >>> >>> <p>The title says "<span lang="he" >>> dir="rtl">פעילות >>> הבינאום</span>, >>> W3C" in Hebrew.</p> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > >
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