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Re: [WCAG2 TECHS] i18n comment 5: H56 source text

From: Loretta Guarino Reid <lorettaguarino@google.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:28:19 -0800
Message-ID: <824e742c0712111528v41877e24h140f350822ec151e@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Richard Ishida" <ishida@w3.org>
Cc: public-comments-wcag20@w3.org, public-i18n-core@w3.org

We have updated  H34 per your suggestions. We have updated the example
in H56 to show the entire title within the rtl span, with "W3C"
enclosed in a nested span with dir="ltr". Thank you for your help.

Regards,

Loretta Guarino Reid, WCAG WG Co-Chair
Gregg Vanderheiden, WCAG WG Co-Chair
Michael Cooper, WCAG WG Staff Contact

On behalf of the WCAG Working Group

On Nov 16, 2007 10:00 AM, Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org> wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, the example shown will produce exactly the wrong result.  The
> ", W3C" text must appear inside the span element to produce the expected
> result.
>
> If you change the example, however, you will run into the problem of how to
> show source text in a sensible fashion, since the hebrew is running right to
> left, and W3C must run left to right and be positioned to the left.
>
> I suggest that you describe the source text rather than show it. Eg. "... o
> the left of (i.e. after) the Hebrew text. This can be achieved by enclosing
> the quote in a span, to which the attribute code dir="rtl" has been added."
>
> I would also be tempted to show before and after examples, like those I
> suggested for
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007OctDec/0135.html
> If you want to do that, and need me to help provide examples and
> visually-ordered ascii, let me know.  (I didn't do it just in case, because
> it takes a while to create them.)
>
> RI
>
>
> ============
> Richard Ishida
> Internationalization Lead
> W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
>
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>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: public-i18n-core-request@w3.org
> > [mailto:public-i18n-core-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Richard Ishida
> > Sent: 16 November 2007 15:51
> > To: public-i18n-core@w3.org
> > Subject: RE: [WCAG2 TECHS] i18n comment 5: H56 source text
> >
> >
> >   -----Original Message-----
> >   From: Loretta Guarino Reid [mailto:lorettaguarino@google.com]
> >   Sent: 04 November 2007 05:09
> >  ...
> >   Please review our resolutions for the following comments,
> > and reply to  us by 19 November 2007 at
> > public-comments-wcag20@w3.org to say whether  you are
> > satisfied. Note that this list is publicly archived.
> >  ...
> >   WCAG 2.0 Editor's Draft of May-October 2007 at
> > http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-WCAG20-20071102/
> >
> >  ...
> >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > > Comment 10: H56: issues with example similar to H34
> > > Source:
> > > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/200
> > 7Jun/0046.html
> > > (Issue ID: 1968)
> > > ----------------------------
> > > Original Comment:
> > > ----------------------------
> > >
> > > Comment from the i18n review of:
> > > http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20070517/
> > >
> > > Comment 5
> > > At http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0706-wcag2-techniques/
> > > Editorial/substantive: E
> > > Owner: RI
> > >
> > > Location in reviewed document:
> > > H56
> > >
> > [http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20070517/Overview.html#H56]
> > >
> > > Comment:
> > > The use of the example of source text runs into similar
> > > problems to those described for H34. You can see how I
> > > attempted to explain this in examples at
> > > http://www.w3.org/International/geo/html-tech/tech-bidi.html#r
> > i20030726.140315918
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > Response from Working Group:
> > > ---------------------------------------------
> > >
> >  Thank you for helping us improve this technique and the
> >  example. The code example now reads:
> >
> >  <p>The title says "<span lang="he"
> >  dir="rtl">&#1508;&#1506;&#1497;&#1500;&#1493;&#1514;
> >  &#1492;&#1489;&#1497;&#1504;&#1488;&#1493;&#1501;</span>,
> >  W3C" in Hebrew.</p>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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