Re: testing our survey with a screen reader

Hello Lisa,

Yes, this is a known difficulty and the reason why we didn't use the table
structure on the Structure survey.

At the risk of the form becoming longer, my suggestion is to break each one
out into a separate question.

Rain

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 8:22 AM Shawn Thompson <shawn@shawnthompson.ca>
wrote:

> Lisa,
>
> On mobile the questionnaire scrolls in two directions for the tables.
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> I would recommend switching them to check lists if possible.
>
> Thanks,
>
> **Shawn Thompson, WAS**
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> On Sep 21, 2022, at 8:15 AM, Delisi, Jennie (MNIT) <
> jennie.delisi@state.mn.us> wrote:
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> Hi Lisa,
>
> Are you asking they be tested from a “meet the standard” standpoint or
> from a usability with assistive technology standpoint? Both?
>
> If about “meet the standard” I could possibly test next week if helpful.
>
> It may be helpful to also ask members of the W3C work that use screen
> readers every day to test too.
>
> Jennie
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> Hi Folks
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> I was trying to test our survey on the coga research documents
> <https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fforms%2Fd%2Fe%2F1FAIpQLSc4ugu4iWRlEQ84-NWJmaiwtVWkXD1mhdCxB6MMy8N_mT56Bg%2Fviewform&data=05%7C01%7Cjennie.delisi%40state.mn.us%7Cf63b5701405745e3385a08da9ba8fe91%7Ceb14b04624c445198f26b89c2159828c%7C0%7C0%7C637993447393512696%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=DEvYKiw575GqZsFApcEdAJDRGDFdyRdXttRMhLcnqo8%3D&reserved=0>
> with a screen reader and I found the tables, even when they were one row,
> really hard to use. Not impossible, but with my screen off it was too hard
> (at least for me).
>
> Is that because I am not used to the screen reader? I have not done
> testing for a while, so my skills are rusty.
>
> Do we have any screen reader users who can test it, or is this a know
> issue?
>
> If they are really complex we can redo the questions as checklists. (Maybe
> we should just do that)
>
>
>
> All the best
>
>
>
> Lisa
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