Re: testing our survey with a screen reader

Thanks everyone for the feedback

I will try and redo the form.

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 4:47 PM Rain Michaels <rainb@google.com> wrote:

> Hello Lisa,
>
> Yes, this is a known difficulty and the reason why we didn't use the table
> structure on the Structure survey.
>
> At the risk of the form becoming longer, my suggestion is to break each
> one out into a separate question.
>
> Rain
>
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 8:22 AM Shawn Thompson <shawn@shawnthompson.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Lisa,
>>
>> On mobile the questionnaire scrolls in two directions for the tables.
>>
>> [image: image]
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>> I would recommend switching them to check lists if possible.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> **Shawn Thompson, WAS**
>> Web Accessibility Technical Advisor | Conseiller technique en
>> accessibilité Web
>> Montreal, Quebec
>> (613) 363-7468
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>>
>> On Sep 21, 2022, at 8:15 AM, Delisi, Jennie (MNIT) <
>> jennie.delisi@state.mn.us> wrote:
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>> 
>>
>> Hi Lisa,
>>
>> Are you asking they be tested from a “meet the standard” standpoint or
>> from a usability with assistive technology standpoint? Both?
>>
>> If about “meet the standard” I could possibly test next week if helpful.
>>
>> It may be helpful to also ask members of the W3C work that use screen
>> readers every day to test too.
>>
>> Jennie
>>
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>> Hi Folks
>>
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>>
>> I was trying to test our survey on the coga research documents
>> <https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fforms%2Fd%2Fe%2F1FAIpQLSc4ugu4iWRlEQ84-NWJmaiwtVWkXD1mhdCxB6MMy8N_mT56Bg%2Fviewform&data=05%7C01%7Cjennie.delisi%40state.mn.us%7Cf63b5701405745e3385a08da9ba8fe91%7Ceb14b04624c445198f26b89c2159828c%7C0%7C0%7C637993447393512696%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=DEvYKiw575GqZsFApcEdAJDRGDFdyRdXttRMhLcnqo8%3D&reserved=0>
>> with a screen reader and I found the tables, even when they were one row,
>> really hard to use. Not impossible, but with my screen off it was too hard
>> (at least for me).
>>
>> Is that because I am not used to the screen reader? I have not done
>> testing for a while, so my skills are rusty.
>>
>> Do we have any screen reader users who can test it, or is this a know
>> issue?
>>
>> If they are really complex we can redo the questions as checklists.
>> (Maybe we should just do that)
>>
>>
>>
>> All the best
>>
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>> Lisa
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