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Re: proposed change of language for common words

From: Gregg C Vanderheiden <greggvan@umd.edu>
Date: Thu, 4 May 2017 14:58:16 -0400
Cc: public-cognitive-a11y-tf <public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org>
Message-Id: <097E2851-5B2B-485B-B024-2FA73A59A4C9@umd.edu>
To: "lisa.seeman" <lisa.seeman@zoho.com>
Some thoughts



same applies I think to nav, error, instructions 

some questions 

Error messages are notorious for having to describe things — and use words that will not be in the 1500?  
is an OK button a response? 

We have a page where many/most of the navigation elements will not be in the list.  
What constitutes a navigation element?   (links are all navigation elements for many people) 
  
again - I think we really need to try to apply these on web pages.     
Try this one on the GL web pages. 
then try IEEE
then the Access Board 


 RE changing the word list
how does this help?    we presume that the reason for this is to fall within the language of the user.  If I change the list for each site - then the words the person must know is much more than 1500
what is the purpose of posting the list?   is the user supposed to read all the words first and see if they know them? (or is this just for testability —   and users actually need to learn many more words to surf across websites? 
if links are included — then news sites will fail even if they change their wordlist every day


best 

g 

Gregg C Vanderheiden
greggvan@umd.edu




> On May 4, 2017, at 2:29 PM, lisa.seeman <lisa.seeman@zoho.com> wrote:
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> Gregg the scope is just for navigation elements and instructions and some error message.
> You can also use a different work list for a specific context as long as it is public
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> All the best
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> Lisa Seeman
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> ---- On Thu, 04 May 2017 21:24:36 +0300 Gregg C Vanderheiden<greggvan@umd.edu> wrote ---- 
> I did word frequency studies in my previous life
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> Before we decide to adopt any core vocabularies (except at level AAA)  we should first convert all of our work into the core vocabulary we are thinking of requiring others to use.    I think you will be quite surprised.  
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> Just to get started — here is a list of most common 3000 words.   
> http://www.ef.edu/english-resources/english-vocabulary/top-3000-words/ <http://www.ef.edu/english-resources/english-vocabulary/top-3000-words/>
>    (by the way — we would need to rename our guidelines because   Web   and   accessibility   (though access is)   are not in the 3000 most commonly used words.  Also missing   caption ,   programmatic,   mobile,  and more. 
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> Gregg C Vanderheiden
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> On May 4, 2017, at 1:32 PM, lisa.seeman <lisa.seeman@zoho.com <mailto:lisa.seeman@zoho.com>> wrote:
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> Use words or phrases  from a public core vocabulary; or  the most common 1500 words or phrases  (including word roots),  phrases or abbreviations that are the most-common form to refer to the concept in a public word frequency list for the identified context.
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> We need a definition for core vocabulary 
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> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/Top3_18Apr2017/results#xq10 <https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/Top3_18Apr2017/results#xq10>
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> All the best
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> Lisa Seeman
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> LinkedIn <http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/>, Twitter <https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa>
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