Re: chemistry speech

MathCAT supports three levels of verbosity: terse, medium, and full. The
idea being that as one becomes more familiar with a notation, users may
want hear less. One trivial example that is in the code now is "sine x"
versus "the sine of x".

One caveat: the verbosity level is global -- changing it changes all
readings. It is easy for a user to change when switching documents, but if
chemistry is mixed with math, a terse reading will affect the reading of
math also.

    Neil


On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 9:15 AM E.A.Moore <e.a.moore@open.ac.uk> wrote:

> I started filling it in. You are right that we would say H 2 O, but if I
> understand it, this is MathML or similar and so would have to be the same
> for all levels of students, including beginners?
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> Elaine
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> *From: *Neil Soiffer <soiffer@alum.mit.edu>
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> *To: *Eleanor.Crabb <eleanor.crabb@open.ac.uk>; Chemistry CG
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> Yes, you are correct (although with spaces). Eg. "cap C 6 cap H 12 cap 0
> 6" for the first one. Someone has started filling in responses (thanks!)
> but I'm very dubious that the use of the word "subscript" is appropriate to
> speak chemistry notation. I've never heard anyone say "cap H subscript 2
> cap 0" for water. It is always "H 2 O".
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>     Neil
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> On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 12:07 AM Eleanor.Crabb <eleanor.crabb@open.ac.uk>
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> Hello Neil
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> Great to see the progress underway. Apologies for the very basic question,
> but please can I check that when you are asking for preferred speech that
> you are asking for us to describe the examples along the lines of the
> previous suggestions eg CapCCapHsub2CapO for the initial example of CH2O.
> Not sure how the group wants to tackle this. Should we divide these up
> among volunteers or perhaps meet to go through these?
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> With best wishes
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> Eleanor
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> *From:* Neil Soiffer <soiffer@alum.mit.edu>
> *Sent:* 02 August 2022 06:03
> *To:* Chemistry CG <public-chem-web-pub@w3.org>
> *Subject:* chemistry speech
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> I'm close to making Chemistry Speech work with MathCAT (in NVDA). However,
> I'm not sure that the words I'm using are correct. I have produced a google
> doc with many sample notations
> <https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1yjNc1rY3q73Cf1UKPVsnhG0AXjJCu4M8dXAUJdBpRic%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing&data=05%7C01%7Ce.a.moore%40open.ac.uk%7Cfc81d873a57842b3538f08da74a15d88%7C0e2ed45596af4100bed3a8e5fd981685%7C0%7C0%7C637950533656495211%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=SAFuej5H7EvVSyhd9MGAggKkEi8AS7kaEvQYT4iWmNY%3D&reserved=0>
> and symbols. They are broken into three tables:
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>    - Chemical Formulas
>    - Chemical Equations
>    - Symbols
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> I would appreciate it if the group or individuals in the group would fill
> in the column for "Preferred Speech". I know Google Docs aren't
> particularly accessible for math, so in addition to the displayed
> chemistry, there is also the LaTeX mchem input.
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> I am planning to release a new version of MathCAT with the chemistry
> speech in it in 2.5 weeks before I go on a long summer holiday. I'd
> appreciate getting feedback within two weeks so I can get the preferred
> speech into that release. Apologies for the short timeframe.
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>     Neil
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