RE: chemistry speech

I started filling it in. You are right that we would say H 2 O, but if I understand it, this is MathML or similar and so would have to be the same for all levels of students, including beginners?

Elaine

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From: Neil Soiffer<mailto:soiffer@alum.mit.edu>
Sent: 02 August 2022 17:09
To: Eleanor.Crabb<mailto:eleanor.crabb@open.ac.uk>; Chemistry CG<mailto:public-chem-web-pub@w3.org>
Subject: Re: chemistry speech


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Yes, you are correct (although with spaces). Eg. "cap C 6 cap H 12 cap 0 6" for the first one. Someone has started filling in responses (thanks!) but I'm very dubious that the use of the word "subscript" is appropriate to speak chemistry notation. I've never heard anyone say "cap H subscript 2 cap 0" for water. It is always "H 2 O".

    Neil


On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 12:07 AM Eleanor.Crabb <eleanor.crabb@open.ac.uk<mailto:eleanor.crabb@open.ac.uk>> wrote:
Hello Neil
Great to see the progress underway. Apologies for the very basic question, but please can I check that when you are asking for preferred speech that you are asking for us to describe the examples along the lines of the previous suggestions eg CapCCapHsub2CapO for the initial example of CH2O. Not sure how the group wants to tackle this. Should we divide these up among volunteers or perhaps meet to go through these?

With best wishes
Eleanor



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Sent: 02 August 2022 06:03
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I'm close to making Chemistry Speech work with MathCAT (in NVDA). However, I'm not sure that the words I'm using are correct. I have produced a google doc with many sample notations<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1yjNc1rY3q73Cf1UKPVsnhG0AXjJCu4M8dXAUJdBpRic%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing&data=05%7C01%7Ce.a.moore%40open.ac.uk%7Cfc81d873a57842b3538f08da74a15d88%7C0e2ed45596af4100bed3a8e5fd981685%7C0%7C0%7C637950533656495211%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=SAFuej5H7EvVSyhd9MGAggKkEi8AS7kaEvQYT4iWmNY%3D&reserved=0> and symbols. They are broken into three tables:

  *   Chemical Formulas
  *   Chemical Equations
  *   Symbols
I would appreciate it if the group or individuals in the group would fill in the column for "Preferred Speech". I know Google Docs aren't particularly accessible for math, so in addition to the displayed chemistry, there is also the LaTeX mchem input.

I am planning to release a new version of MathCAT with the chemistry speech in it in 2.5 weeks before I go on a long summer holiday. I'd appreciate getting feedback within two weeks so I can get the preferred speech into that release. Apologies for the short timeframe.

    Neil

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