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RE: ACTION-639: Create a more elaborate charter with times, deliverables

From: Jo Rabin <jrabin@mtld.mobi>
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 12:44:07 -0000
Message-ID: <C8FFD98530207F40BD8D2CAD608B50B4B880D7@mtldsvr01.DotMobi.local>
To: "Scheppe, Kai-Dietrich" <k.scheppe@telekom.de>, <public-bpwg@w3.org>

Hi Kai, yes exactly, only the results are open to scrutiny, not the
means by which the results are achieved. The latter would give one more
confidence that results are repeatable, e.g. for some sites which
famously change on a minute-by-minute basis, the result of a test at a
particular point in time may say nothing about the results that might be
attained at a different point in time. 

Jo



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scheppe, Kai-Dietrich [mailto:k.scheppe@telekom.de]
> Sent: 12 February 2008 12:30
> To: Jo Rabin; public-bpwg@w3.org
> Subject: RE: ACTION-639: Create a more elaborate charter with times,
> deliverables
> 
> Hi Jo,
> 
> I did follow the thread but wanted to clarify:
> 
> Black box testing means that the result is tested and not the process?
> 
> -- Kai
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: public-bpwg-request@w3.org
> > [mailto:public-bpwg-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Jo Rabin
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:09 PM
> > To: public-bpwg@w3.org
> > Subject: RE: ACTION-639: Create a more elaborate charter with
> > times, deliverables
> >
> >
> > Thanks Kai.
> >
> > I have one suggestion, which is to clarify that the testing
> > involved is limited to black box testing - per the thread at [1].
> >
> > Hence my suggestion would be:
> >
> > * The scope of mobileOK Pro Tests is all tests not covered by
> > mobileOK Basic Tests
> >
> > Changes to
> >
> > * The scope of mobileOK Pro Tests is all tests not covered by
> > mobileOK Basic Tests that are amenable to black box testing.
> >
> > Regds
> > Jo
> >
> > [1]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Feb/0015.html
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: public-bpwg-request@w3.org
[mailto:public-bpwg-request@w3.org]
> > On
> > > Behalf Of Scheppe, Kai-Dietrich
> > > Sent: 12 February 2008 11:59
> > > To: public-bpwg@w3.org
> > > Subject: FW: ACTION-639: Create a more elaborate charter
> > with times,
> > > deliverables
> > >
> > >
> > > Forwarded to public list...
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: member-bpwg-request@w3.org
> > > > [mailto:member-bpwg-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Scheppe,
> > Kai-Dietrich
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:51 PM
> > > > To: Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group WG
> > > > Subject: ACTION-639: Create a more elaborate charter with times,
> > > > deliverables
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > > I was actioned to elaborate on the mobileOK Pro Task
> > Force Charter.
> > > >
> > > > This takes care of several actions (can I do this for tracking
> > > > purposes?):
> > > >
> > > > ACTION-639: Create a more elaborate charter with times,
> > deliverables
> > > > ACTION-612: Write a charter for mobileOK Pro TF by January
> > > > ACTION-636: Put together a reasonble time table for completion
of
> > > > mobileOK Pro by the end of BPWG
> > > > ACTION-648: Update the charter document based on output of F2F
> > > >
> > > > And it closes
> > > >
> > > > ISSUE-185: What are the mobileOK Full deliverables?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Following you will find the ammended charter.
> > > >
> > > > Please comment
> > > >
> > > > Kai
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Charter for the mobileOK Pro Task Force
> > > >
> > > > - Timeline of the Task Force:
> > > >   * Charter will be delivered by 21-02-08
> > > >   * First draft of reworked tests will be delivered by 21-02-08
> > > >   * LC by 08-05-08
> > > >   * LC comments addressed in June
> > > >   * CR by end of June
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > - Scope of the Task Force's work:
> > > >   * The scope of mobileOK Pro Tests is all tests not covered by
> > > > mobileOK Basic Tests
> > > >   * Testing is to be done against the default delivery
> > context (DDC)
> > > >   * An emulator will be created with code provided by Jo and
> > > > modified by Segala
> > > >
> > > > - Deliverables of the Task Force:
> > > >   * mobileOK Pro Tests Dokument
> > > >   * a modified version of a DDC emulator
> > > >
> > > > - The mobileOK Pro TF will
> > > >   * be governed by the agreements set forth in the BPWG
regarding
> > > > Task Forces found at
> > > > http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/
> > > > <http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/>
> > > >   * provide a test format that minimizes the variance of results
> > > > produced through subjective tests
> > > >   * reexamine mobileOK Basic tests for necessary changes
> > and provide
> > > > those changes for the work group
> > > >   * identify requirements which may need cooperation with other
> > > > working groups
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
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