RE: ACTION-639: Create a more elaborate charter with times, deliverables

Ok, but then I would suggest we reformulate into:

The scope of mobileOK Pro Tests is all tests not covered by mobileOK
Basic Tests.
Testresults are evaluated for the result, not for the process of
achieving the result.

-- Kai







> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jo Rabin [mailto:jrabin@mtld.mobi] 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:44 PM
> To: Scheppe, Kai-Dietrich; public-bpwg@w3.org
> Subject: RE: ACTION-639: Create a more elaborate charter with 
> times, deliverables
> 
> Hi Kai, yes exactly, only the results are open to scrutiny, 
> not the means by which the results are achieved. The latter 
> would give one more confidence that results are repeatable, 
> e.g. for some sites which famously change on a 
> minute-by-minute basis, the result of a test at a particular 
> point in time may say nothing about the results that might be 
> attained at a different point in time. 
> 
> Jo
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scheppe, Kai-Dietrich [mailto:k.scheppe@telekom.de]
> > Sent: 12 February 2008 12:30
> > To: Jo Rabin; public-bpwg@w3.org
> > Subject: RE: ACTION-639: Create a more elaborate charter 
> with times, 
> > deliverables
> > 
> > Hi Jo,
> > 
> > I did follow the thread but wanted to clarify:
> > 
> > Black box testing means that the result is tested and not 
> the process?
> > 
> > -- Kai
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: public-bpwg-request@w3.org
> > > [mailto:public-bpwg-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Jo Rabin
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:09 PM
> > > To: public-bpwg@w3.org
> > > Subject: RE: ACTION-639: Create a more elaborate charter 
> with times, 
> > > deliverables
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Kai.
> > >
> > > I have one suggestion, which is to clarify that the 
> testing involved 
> > > is limited to black box testing - per the thread at [1].
> > >
> > > Hence my suggestion would be:
> > >
> > > * The scope of mobileOK Pro Tests is all tests not covered by 
> > > mobileOK Basic Tests
> > >
> > > Changes to
> > >
> > > * The scope of mobileOK Pro Tests is all tests not covered by 
> > > mobileOK Basic Tests that are amenable to black box testing.
> > >
> > > Regds
> > > Jo
> > >
> > > [1]
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Feb/0015.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: public-bpwg-request@w3.org
> [mailto:public-bpwg-request@w3.org]
> > > On
> > > > Behalf Of Scheppe, Kai-Dietrich
> > > > Sent: 12 February 2008 11:59
> > > > To: public-bpwg@w3.org
> > > > Subject: FW: ACTION-639: Create a more elaborate charter
> > > with times,
> > > > deliverables
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Forwarded to public list...
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: member-bpwg-request@w3.org 
> > > > > [mailto:member-bpwg-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Scheppe,
> > > Kai-Dietrich
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:51 PM
> > > > > To: Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group WG
> > > > > Subject: ACTION-639: Create a more elaborate charter 
> with times, 
> > > > > deliverables
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > I was actioned to elaborate on the mobileOK Pro Task
> > > Force Charter.
> > > > >
> > > > > This takes care of several actions (can I do this for tracking
> > > > > purposes?):
> > > > >
> > > > > ACTION-639: Create a more elaborate charter with times,
> > > deliverables
> > > > > ACTION-612: Write a charter for mobileOK Pro TF by January
> > > > > ACTION-636: Put together a reasonble time table for completion
> of
> > > > > mobileOK Pro by the end of BPWG
> > > > > ACTION-648: Update the charter document based on output of F2F
> > > > >
> > > > > And it closes
> > > > >
> > > > > ISSUE-185: What are the mobileOK Full deliverables?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Following you will find the ammended charter.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please comment
> > > > >
> > > > > Kai
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Charter for the mobileOK Pro Task Force
> > > > >
> > > > > - Timeline of the Task Force:
> > > > >   * Charter will be delivered by 21-02-08
> > > > >   * First draft of reworked tests will be delivered 
> by 21-02-08
> > > > >   * LC by 08-05-08
> > > > >   * LC comments addressed in June
> > > > >   * CR by end of June
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - Scope of the Task Force's work:
> > > > >   * The scope of mobileOK Pro Tests is all tests not 
> covered by 
> > > > > mobileOK Basic Tests
> > > > >   * Testing is to be done against the default delivery
> > > context (DDC)
> > > > >   * An emulator will be created with code provided by Jo and 
> > > > > modified by Segala
> > > > >
> > > > > - Deliverables of the Task Force:
> > > > >   * mobileOK Pro Tests Dokument
> > > > >   * a modified version of a DDC emulator
> > > > >
> > > > > - The mobileOK Pro TF will
> > > > >   * be governed by the agreements set forth in the BPWG
> regarding
> > > > > Task Forces found at
> > > > > http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/
> > > > > <http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/>
> > > > >   * provide a test format that minimizes the variance 
> of results 
> > > > > produced through subjective tests
> > > > >   * reexamine mobileOK Basic tests for necessary changes
> > > and provide
> > > > > those changes for the work group
> > > > >   * identify requirements which may need cooperation 
> with other 
> > > > > working groups
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>

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