Re: VSS Presentation

Thank you, Urata-san. Your pull request has been merged. Thank you for your
contribution.

Rudi

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Shinjiro Urata <
shinjiro.urata@access-company.com> wrote:

> Hi Rudi-san,
>
> Thanks for the review.
> I sent the pull request as below.
> Please have a look.
>
> https://github.com/GENIVI/vehicle_signal_specification/pull/12
>
> Best regards,
> Shinjiro Urata
>
>
> 2016-09-14 2:22 GMT+09:00 Streif, Rudolf <rstreif@jaguarlandrover.com>:
>
>> Thank you, Urata-san. I checked it out and it works ok. Please issue a
>> pull request.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Rudi
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 12:19 AM, Shinjiro Urata <
>> shinjiro.urata@access-company.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rudi-san,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the comments.
>>>
>>> 1. Using the vss2json.py tool
>>>> <https://github.com/GENIVI/vehicle_signal_specification/blob/develop/tools/vspec2json.py> as
>>>> a template
>>>>
>>>
>>> Although I made the tool just for ad hoc purpose,
>>>  if you like to add it to the repository, it's happy to me.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the instruction.
>>> I modify the code and attached.
>>>
>>> 2. Splitting up the signal names into individual nodes
>>>>
>>>> Your tool is currently splitting up the signal names and places the
>>>> individual nodes each into their own column in the csv file. I have been
>>>> thinking about it. The biggest problem is that the tree is not limited in
>>>> depth. There  can be any depth and you don't know how many columns are
>>>> needed. The second problem is that you cannot easily look up a signal by
>>>> its name because you have to search across columns. Maybe it's better to
>>>> just put the signal name in its entirety into a single column? The csv file
>>>> structure would then be:
>>>>
>>>> [Signal] ,[ID], [Type], [Unit], [Min], [Max], [Description]
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, I assumed maximum depth as 10 since it was enough for ad hoc
>>> purpose.
>>> Your idea is fine and I modified the new version to followed this.
>>>
>>> I'll make pull request, so please check it.
>>>
>>> Since I don't use python much,
>>>  excuse me for not smart code :-)
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Shinjiro Urata
>>>
>>>
>>> 2016-09-13 1:48 GMT+09:00 Streif, Rudolf <rstreif@jaguarlandrover.com>:
>>>
>>>> Urata-san,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much. This is looking really good. There are two more
>>>> things I would like you to consider and I apologize for not bringing them
>>>> up earlier:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1. Using the vss2json.py tool
>>>> <https://github.com/GENIVI/vehicle_signal_specification/blob/develop/tools/vspec2json.py> as
>>>> a template
>>>>
>>>> We already have three conversion tools that directly convert VSS into
>>>> different output formats in the GENIVI Github repository
>>>> <https://github.com/GENIVI/vehicle_signal_specification>. I would like
>>>> to add your tool to the repo but it would be very beneficial if it followed
>>>> the same template as the other tools. These tools directly read the VSS
>>>> files. It's easy since the core of it is a converter that reads VSS YAML
>>>> hierarchy into a JSON structure. All you have to do is
>>>>
>>>> import vspec
>>>>
>>>> tree = vspec.load(<vspec_file>, <include_dirs>)
>>>>
>>>> tree then contains the JSON tree structure alleviating you from reading
>>>> the JSON file and omitting the vspec2json step. The vspec2json.py converter
>>>> also contains the code to create the signal ID database.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2. Splitting up the signal names into individual nodes
>>>>
>>>> Your tool is currently splitting up the signal names and places the
>>>> individual nodes each into their own column in the csv file. I have been
>>>> thinking about it. The biggest problem is that the tree is not limited in
>>>> depth. There  can be any depth and you don't know how many columns are
>>>> needed. The second problem is that you cannot easily look up a signal by
>>>> its name because you have to search across columns. Maybe it's better to
>>>> just put the signal name in its entirety into a single column? The csv file
>>>> structure would then be:
>>>>
>>>> [Signal] ,[ID], [Type], [Unit], [Min], [Max], [Description]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Others, please weigh in here too.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Rudi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Shinjiro Urata <
>>>> shinjiro.urata@access-company.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Rudi-san,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the suggestion.
>>>>> Hirabayashi-san gave me similar comment.
>>>>>
>>>>> Attahced is the format modified version (and omitted repetitive part
>>>>> such as seat/door's Row2,3,..etc.).
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks and regards,
>>>>> Shinjiro Urata
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2016-09-08 3:22 GMT+09:00 Streif, Rudolf <rstreif@jaguarlandrover.com>
>>>>> :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you, Urata-san.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We would probably want to output the expanded fields of the leaf
>>>>>> nodes in the form of:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [ Attribute ], [ Cabin ], [ Seat ], [ DriverPostiion ], ...
>>>>>> [ Attribute ], [ Cabin ], [ Seat ], [ Row1PosCount ], ...
>>>>>> [ Attribute ], [ Cabin ], [ Seat ], [ Row2PosCount ], ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> otherwise we will have this sparsely populated spreadsheet.
>>>>>> Furthermore, with the current format the order of the lines in the file is
>>>>>> essential otherwise the hierarchy is lost. Which means the file/spreadsheet
>>>>>> cannot be sorted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, yes, the vehicle speed was missing which was a blunt oversight.
>>>>>> It's fixed now:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signal.Drivetrain.Transmission.Speed
>>>>>> Signal.Cabin.Infotainment.Navigation.CurrentLocation.Speed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Rudi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 1:51 AM, Shinjiro Urata <
>>>>>> shinjiro.urata@access-company.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hirabayashi-san, Rudi-san
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I tried conversion from vss_rel_1.json to csv with small script.
>>>>>>> I don't know if this converted file fits to the needs.
>>>>>>> Please have a look at attached file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >Hirabayashi-san
>>>>>>> Since I omitted all other information except data point name,
>>>>>>>  this may not very goot for cross check with older Vehicle Data Spec.
>>>>>>> In that case, by modifiying the script, it is possible to
>>>>>>>  add more information such as datatype, min/max, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>> Shinjiro Urata
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2016-09-07 10:30 GMT+09:00 <ta-hirabayashi@kddi-ri.jp>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rudi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks, I got it in Paris f2f meeting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We need list of all vehicle signals/data as soon as possible to make
>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>> overs and shorts comparing with the previous vehicle data specs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Vocabulary (data naming) list would be helpful in excel or csv
>>>>>>>> format.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you in advance for your help.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> T.Hirabayashi
>>>>>>>>
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