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Re: Confusion with spec name for "Accessible Name Computation"

From: Richard Schwerdtfeger <richschwer@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 13:57:30 -0500
Cc: Cynthia Shelly <cyns@microsoft.com>, James Craig <jcraig@apple.com>, ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org>
Message-Id: <A2A88129-48F0-4C66-8BE4-6BE2BC0BF4C6@gmail.com>
To: James Nurthen <james.nurthen@oracle.com>
If we had to replace name I would agree. Also, descriptions are a form of text. 

My concern is we are a month a way from lock down. 

> On May 12, 2016, at 9:09 PM, James Nurthen <james.nurthen@oracle.com> wrote:
> 
> Except it's not really a text alternative. I'd say that the text alternative for an input element would be its value.
> 
> All of these proposals have more disadvantages to me than the current name. Unless someone can come up with a compelling reason to change to something which doesn't have these issues I would prefer to keep the current name. 
> 
> Regards,
> James. 
> 
> On May 12, 2016, at 18:11, Cynthia Shelly <cyns@microsoft.com <mailto:cyns@microsoft.com>> wrote:
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>> I’d prefer “Text Alternative Computation.” I find “Accessible Label Computation” even more confusing that “Accessible Name Computation” since it has inputs that are <label> aria-label, aria-labelledby, and also inputs that are not labels at all. It has 2 outputs, and description is not a label at all. Text Alternative is accurate, and not taken by anything else.
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>> From: Rich Schwerdtfeger [mailto:richschwer@gmail.com <mailto:richschwer@gmail.com>] 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 12:57 PM
>> To: James Craig <jcraig@apple.com <mailto:jcraig@apple.com>>
>> Cc: ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org <mailto:public-aria@w3.org>>
>> Subject: Re: Confusion with spec name for "Accessible Name Computation"
>>  
>> We can discuss. This impact the SVG AAM as well. On Windows systems name is the appropriate term and it was first introduced in 1995. I would need to reeducate a lot of people at IBM too. 
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>> Can you give us a link to where you found the concerns?
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>> Thanks,
>>  
>> Rich
>>  
>> Rich Schwerdtfeger
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>>  
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>> On May 12, 2016, at 2:31 PM, James Craig <jcraig@apple.com <mailto:jcraig@apple.com>> wrote:
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>> I've heard some confusion recently that the spec name for "Accessible Name Computation" does not match the property usage ("aria-label", "aria-labelledby", HTML <label>, etc.) The concern is that "name" means different things in some accessibility APIs and @name means something else entirely in HTML.
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>> Will you consider changing the spec title to one of the following:
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>> - "Accessible Label Computation" 
>> - "Text Alternative Computation"
>> 
>> Or another spec title that doesn't have associated baggage of "Name."
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> James Craig
>> 


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