Re: AI KR meetings 2021

LJ

KG as KR
I hope I can have a discussion with you about the suitability of KG as KR
I have developed a checklist for the evaluation of  KR and maybe you can
help me
future out if KGs meet the adequacy criteria

regarding the register, last fall (time goes so quickly) I attended a
launch event for
a report by algorithm watch
https://algorithmwatch.org/en/press-release-automating-society-2020/
There they make some recommendations, including for a registry

crease the transparency of ADM systems by establishing public registers for
ADM systems used within the public sector and by introducing
legally-binding data access frameworks to support and enable public
interest research;

(see the bottom of the link for more recommendations)

But I dont think a registry is feasible without massive overhead
and centralization,

 after bouncing off some ideas here with Carl and Owen who
were also thinking registry (not sure in relation to the same initiative) I
suggested that working on a public schema for a registry should be feasible
for us, ie a set of data/requirements that can be used by public
authorities and /or software developers/owners to ensure their AI is
trustworthy,  Even just to publish a schema/specification for the registry
is going to require commitment

regarding stratML , please search our mailing list of extensive references
and pointers to resources and if you cannot find
them email Owen will point you
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aikr/

Thank you for joining and I ll soon send a summary of recent published work
and talks


On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 10:11 PM LJ.Garcia <lj.garcia.co@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Paola, all,
>
> I work with semantic web and linked data in life sciences so I guess I am
> one of those that find knowledge graphs as a good KR. I use semantic
> approaches to combine data and do some knowledge discovery / data analytics
> there, so I understand better the data and what I can get out of it.
>
> I have not been able to get much information about StrathML, google seems
> to get confused with the term and does not give me much. Any link you can
> provide?
>
> Regarding a schema for ethical AI, I could be interested in it but would
> need to understand better what you mean. I have worked with schema.org to
> add markup/metadata to webpages. Let's suppose you expose your AI tool on a
> portal or so, would the schema you have in mind describe the AI tool with
> some properties regarding ethical aspects?
>
> Regards,
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 1:15 AM Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> LJ,
>> please tell us about your topic and your interest in AI KR
>>
>> I ll be posting some updates soon at my end
>> My vision for KR is that is pretty much the center of the known universe,
>> in the sense that
>> humans relate to the world around them through cognition
>> From KR depends everything that is shared/collective, that is made
>> explicit and communicated and subject to norms
>> That is quite a lot. Now that some level of AI is used in every system KR
>> is becoming more important
>> But it has not evolved much. I dont think kg (Knowledge Graphs) are
>> reliable KR methods. Do you have opinions
>> on that?
>> I dont need KR in the same way for our own internal world
>> this is perhaps more the realm of Cognitive AI
>>
>> I am pursuing my vision by pitching papers - had a few abstracts and
>> papers and talks on the subject
>> accepted,  and started this group in the hope the message trickles
>> It has trickled, as people have started picking up on the topics we share
>> here and discuss them
>> elsewhere, for some reason :-)
>>
>> There is a lot of interesting material and I think I ll start by
>> publishing a concept map of what is going on
>>
>> StrathML is great but fits a bit like a straightjacket for my madness at
>> the moment :-)
>>
>> The last meaningful ideas was a schema for Ethical AI repos written in
>> StrathML or something
>> which i hope goes ahead
>>
>>
>> pdm
>>
>> PDM
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 7:07 PM LJ.Garcia <lj.garcia.co@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Paola,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your reply. StratML meetings would be too specific for me,
>>> great to learn but out of my topic right now to not enough time to engage.
>>> I will keep a closer eye to the mailing list to learn more from
>>> discussions and so on. If I see I can contribute somehow, I will do so.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 3:22 AM Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> LJ
>>>> Thanks for the PIng
>>>>
>>>> Carl and Owen have been organising meetings focussed on a specific
>>>> topic StrathML
>>>> but we can set up meetings anytime, with any focus-
>>>> Let us know what you work on, what is your interest and vision for the
>>>> participation in this group
>>>> and we maybe set up a call to focus on any topic that may be of
>>>> interest to you and others
>>>>
>>>> PDM
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 10:13 PM LJ.Garcia <lj.garcia.co@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have partially followed discussions going on on the mailing list but
>>>>> this year would like to be more active. I think there is a monthly meeting?
>>>>> If yes, could you please remind me the details?
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>
>>>>