- From: carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com>
- Date: Sun, 24 May 2020 13:13:56 -0400
- To: W3C AIKR CG <public-aikr@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAHtonukof+eyNKdAyG81CCMvCh3ep_A91DjiSWPBit9Fi1XinA@mail.gmail.com>
Tuesday May 26th is the last scheduled meeting of the series focused on Leveraging the StratML specification for Trustworthy AIKR .. with a Walk-the-talk focus of using StratML for AIKR,. During our meetings we have benefited from the deep expertise of Owen , Chris & Jorge and agreed that : - AIKRCG Strategy can readily be defined using the Vocabulary and Template of the international standard StratML part 1 - AIKRCG can use StratMl part1 & part 2 to EXPLAIN how to 'Evaluate Trustworthy AIKR objects implemented by machine learning powered services' - AIKRCG will supplement the elements/attributes/tags StratMl XSD and XML with Knowledge objects that have KRId's to apply Knowledge-directed Artificial Intelligence Reasoning Over Schemas (KAIROS) DARPA-SN-19-19 . Towards that objective : -StratML is our Schema start point for reasoning, as in, the performance of AIKR inference <https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/inferences&sa=D&usd=2&usg=AOvVaw1D43jdE07rstabANlhFpqL>s is scoped / weighed by the declared strategy. -AIKR reasoning uses KRID identifiers and data (aka metadata) properties, such as KR TYPE that has a value-set that includes ' Declarative'-, 'Imperative (aka procedural)'. based on these agreements we are confident that a near-term outcome of our effort will include: - The AIKRCG Strategy which is published for human and machine consumption. - An AIKRCG demonstration, for humans and machines, explaining how an AI Strategist can produce a performance plan for AIKR objects implemented by machine learning powered services that are measured by Key Performance Indicators (KPIs) - An AIKRCG constructed core ontology (for human and machines) populated with the essential concepts and distinctions required for Knowledge-directed Artificial Intelligence Reasoning Over StratMl Schemas supplemented by Knowledge objects with KRIDs At the close of Tuesdays meeting we will discuss next steps -please reply to this email if you have Goals, Objectives that should be discussed thanks Carl Mattocks Co-Chair AIKRCG It was a pleasure to clarify On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 10:30 PM Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@gmail.com> wrote: > Carl > > all conversation and exchanges about these CG activities are carried out > through the public mailing list > (private exchanges are not part of the CG activities as such) This is why > meetings should be publicly announced > on the mailing list and discussions/decisions documented in some form (I > now understand that the meetings you are coordinating every other tuesday > are about stratml adoption rather than about the CG activities in general) > > Look forward to learn more about what you have in mind for KRID > > > pdm > - > > > On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 10:07 AM carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Strongly suggest that the CG not be copied on one to one discussions. >> >> Carl >> >> On Sat, May 23, 2020, 9:56 PM Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Carl >>> yes, we agreed to continue the discussion via email >>> and I have posted the questions in an email to follow up our agreement >>> >>> but now I dont understand why Paul is replying - you mentioned KRID as >>> your own contribution >>> (if I remember correctly) I would have expected the reply to come from >>> you >>> >>> I have no preconditions on any topics, and I dont understand what is >>> prompting your question >>> what makes you ask? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 9:52 AM carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Paola >>>> >>>> We have agreed to continue our discussions via email .. if you have >>>> preconditions about what topics can be included please let everyone know. >>>> >>>> Carl >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, May 23, 2020, 9:43 PM Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Paul >>>>> >>>>> simply trying to figure out what type of values you identify in the >>>>> KRID according to what logic and schema >>>>> and where (what domain) would that be applicable to and to solve what >>>>> problem- >>>>> >>>>> I dont have an expectation as such - but I figure anything that makes >>>>> sense would do >>>>> when I asked the question to Carl what exactly is KRID ( the KRID >>>>> proposal emanated from Carl, so I expect Carl to send replies if this >>>>> proposal comes from you, maybe you need to clarify that also) >>>>> he said he would see a top level distinction between declarative and >>>>> procedural >>>>> >>>>> i then sent an email pondering a few points about that and you reply >>>>> Please start a document where you specify what is KRID and how you >>>>> envision it to work >>>>> then we can talk about it' at the moment, it is very difficult to have >>>>> an intelligent exchange about it :-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> pdm >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 9:32 AM carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Paola et Al >>>>>> >>>>>> Please outline your expectations for a taxonomy. >>>>>> >>>>>> Carl >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, May 23, 2020, 9:18 PM Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Paul- >>>>>>> Thanks for reply >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * In the parsing of a StratML XSD I found that: * >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is what the question is about - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What did you parse the text with? >>>>>>> Please share the parser and the output so that we can make better >>>>>>> sense of your observations? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> pdm >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 4:19 AM Paul Alagna <pjalagna@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> namespace hiccup2 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <Paola> pls say how did you process the file- </ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm not sure what you meant by your question >>>>>>>> but it sounded to me like "how did you get to realize this?" So, >>>>>>>> I'll answer that one. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Aside from the initial white space, the area of information for an >>>>>>>> XML / XSD document is the beginning brace character "<" up to but not >>>>>>>> including the next brace character "<"; inner split by a ">" token. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> IE <stuff1>stuff2|"<" this "area of information" is also known as a >>>>>>>> "fragment" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The XSD standard has rules about what information items are >>>>>>>> contained in "stuff1" and "stuff2" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In "stuff1" attributes are recorded in the format >>>>>>>> attributeName="attributeValue". If an attribute name is further split into: >>>>>>>> namespaceName ":" localName then further processing is called for. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The XSD standard for namespaces says that a secondary XSD of that >>>>>>>> namespace exists and that a workflow (XSD fragment) for the localName will >>>>>>>> exist. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is accomplished through 3 part mechanism: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1-the namaspace XSD file is declared in the schema statement using >>>>>>>> the "xmlns:" prefix such as <schema xmlns:foo="http//foo---" (oddly without >>>>>>>> the .xsd ending ) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2- the namespace required is named in the attribute name AND/OR >>>>>>>> value. >>>>>>>> like: <element xsd:ref="foo:Fullname" >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 3- that an XSD record exists in the namespace XSD: >>>>>>>> IE <element name=localName-----..</element> existing in foo.xsd >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In the parsing of a StratML XSD I found that: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The StratML.xsd calls for a stratml:Name and but the schema pointer >>>>>>>> "xmlns:stratml=" does NOT point to a valid URI. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is from the StratML.xsd itself >>>>>>>> xmlns:stratml="urn:ISO:std:iso:17469:tech:xsd:stratml_core" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> After a little digging I made the assumption that the usage >>>>>>>> intended was to use the StratML.xsd as the secondary namespace XSD, in >>>>>>>> addition to being the guiding XSD for stratML XML reports. Because the >>>>>>>> <element name="Name" XSD fragment does exist in this very document, >>>>>>>> I can continue on. "I" can continue because I'm a human. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any automatic processes like the AIKR information extraction tools >>>>>>>> we are defining and building MUST follow the rules laid out by our >>>>>>>> standards and the standards we dictate. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Paul >>>>>>>> Thoughts? , comments? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> PAUL ALAGNA >>>>>>>> PJAlagna@Gmail.com <PJAlagna@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> 732-322-5641 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
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