AI Concepts & StratML

Carl & Paola, I’m very much looking forward to seeing what we might be able to together along these lines.  

 

I was already planning to use Paola’s vocabulary form <https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/welcome/ai-kr-task-list/vocabulary/>  to capture the names and definitions of the elements of the StratML standard itself.  However, if someone can automate the process of gleaning relevant concepts from the StratML collection <http://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm>  itself, which now includes more than 4,000 files <http://legisworks.org/StratML/catalogsitemap.html> , that would be great.

 

In the meantime, this Google site-specific query <https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=AI&btnG=Google+Search&domains=stratml.us&sitesearch=stratml.us>  reveals about 200 StratML files referencing “AI”.

 

This one <https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=KM&btnG=Google+Search&domains=stratml.us&sitesearch=stratml.us>  reveals 7 referencing “KM”.  However, that listing is incomplete because there are more than that listed at http://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm#AIIMKM 

 

I’m copying Andre Cusson since he has already give much thought to the relevance of the StratML standard in the domain of KM.  Links to the indices he created several years ago are provided at http://stratml.us/#Cusson  See, for example, http://stratml.hyperbase.com/values.html 

 

BTW, most, if not necessarily all of the elements of the StratML vocabulary (plus some elements not yet included in the standard) are documented in SKOS format at http://stratml.us/draft/StratMLGlossary.xml  However, the SKOS reference is informative only.  The schemas themselves are authoritative and they are documented at http://stratml.us/#Part1 & http://stratml.us/#Part2  

 

Owen

 

From: carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 9:27 AM
To: Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@googlemail.com>
Cc: Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>; ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com>; public-aikr@w3.org
Subject: Re: IDESG, AIKRCG & Identity

 

Excellent suggestion ... having a Stratml extract based ranking plus co-location (semantic distance) should provide an excellent startpoint for further discussion 




It was a pleasure to clarify

 

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 9:14 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com <mailto:paola.dimaio@gmail.com> > wrote:

Also should be easy to extract a set of AI related keywords from your stratml set?

 we can then make a long list and 'rank them' collectively

and include the top ones in our vocab.

wouldnt this make a nice project and one possible paper?

cheers

 

P




Dr Paola Di Maio

Center For Technology Ethics

ISTCS.org and  Chair: W3C AIKR <https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/>  

 

 

 

 

A bit about me <https://about.me/paoladimaio> 

 

 

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 4:31 PM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com <mailto:paola.dimaio@gmail.com> > wrote:

Owen

I browsed stratml web page and there seem to be a lot of initiatives  relevant to CG mission

 

I wonder if one (not me tho) could build a parsing agent to match our cg GOAL and mission to other entities

and then invite the folks in charge or relevant bits to submit their open knowledge schemas and/or documentation

to this cg

 

if building the agent is too expensive, we could do this manually?

just thinking

PDM




Dr Paola Di Maio

Center For Technology Ethics

ISTCS.org and  Chair: W3C AIKR <https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/>  

 

 

 

 

A bit about me <https://about.me/paoladimaio> 

 

 

On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 8:33 PM, Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net <mailto:Owen.Ambur@verizon.net> > wrote:

IDESG’s mission and objectives are available in StratML format at http://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm#IDESG and so too are the goals and objectives of this group as identified thus far, at http://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm#AIKRCG   I look forward to learning how they might mesh and mutually support each other.

 

BTW, as far as personal and organizational identities are concerned, what I care most about are personal values supported by longer-term goals and near-term objectives realized in performance metrics documented in records having the attributes outlined in ISO 15489.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine-Readable_Documents#Definition 

 

Owen

 

From: carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com <mailto:carlmattocks@gmail.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 9:26 AM
To: Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@googlemail.com <mailto:paoladimaio10@googlemail.com> >
Cc: ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com <mailto:metadataportals@yahoo.com> >; public-aikr@w3.org <mailto:public-aikr@w3.org> 
Subject: Re: welcome newcomers subgroups, home page and categories

 

To help progress .. please consider using a page with content similar to 'concept creation' guidelines

 

*          

o     <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#What_sort_of_.27thing.27_is_this_proposed_concept_anyway.3F> 1.1 What sort of 'thing' is this proposed concept anyway?

o     <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#How_to_decide.3F_Is_it_important.3F> 1.2 How to decide? Is it important?

o     <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#Understanding_context> 1.3 Understanding context

o     <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#The_.22Conversation.22_is_valuable> 1.4 The "Conversation" is valuable

*          <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#Using_a_Meta-Model_.28or_two.29> 2 Using a Meta-Model (or two)

*          <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#Create_a_new_proposed_Concept> 3 Create a new proposed Concept

https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines

 

Carl Mattocks




It was a pleasure to clarify

 

On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 1:55 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com <mailto:paola.dimaio@gmail.com> > wrote:

Thank you Milton

 

Do you have a way you'd like to propose the way forward?

 

Shall we just create two pages, where we collect existing definitions and come up with our own 

definition that possibly encompasses them all, thus delivers the broadest possible meaning?

 

Should the group be the 'owner' of these two definitions?

 

Let me know if you can initiate these two pages

 

P




Dr Paola Di Maio

Center For Technology Ethics

 

ISTCS.org

Chair: W3C AIKR <https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/>  

 

 

A bit about me <https://about.me/paoladimaio> 

 

 

On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 3:21 AM, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com <mailto:metadataportals@yahoo.com> > wrote:

Hi Paola and other members of the AIKR community group.

 

Two things we need to establish to reach a consensus of the area we are going to deal with.

 

Number one: the broadest possible definition of what constitutes "artificial intelligence" and number two what constitutes "knowledge representation" also in the broadest possible sense.

 

Only then can we assess what grounds we want or need to cover.

 

It is for that reason I proposed to create and overview map of what currently constitutes AI and related disciplines.

 

But I am also writing a definition paper using category theory to establish a generalized framework which introduces all possible categories of interacting entities, and utilizes a system to define boundaries for AI for interaction, as suggested by the likes of Stephen Hawking, Elon Musk, Kurzweil and countless others.

 

regards

 

Milton Ponson
GSM: +297 747 8280
PO Box 1154, Oranjestad
Aruba, Dutch Caribbean
Project Paradigm: Bringing the ICT tools for sustainable development to all stakeholders worldwide through collaborative research on applied mathematics, advanced modeling, software and standards development

 

On Sunday, July 15, 2018 2:41 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com <mailto:paola.dimaio@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Welcome newcomers (22 members!) 

there's a thread in the mailing list to intro yourselves at your convenience

 

Based on other work, and anticipating future developments

(Milton mentioned subgroups) I have created a page subgroups, and opened two additional pages as containers for future subgroups where some work may be needed (AI Ethics KR and Professional schemas).

Feel free to edit, add, enter etc

https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/subgroups/

 

This is a bit ahead of us perhaps but things are moving fast to have the pages may be cognitive support. The professional schema entry may need better wording, I have not thought it property yet.

 

I have two issues with our home page, maybe W3C folks on this list can assist?

 

Here

https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/

 

 

1. The main text area of the page contains some duplicate text, I dont seem to be able to edit/access the upper portion of the group description, I have pinged Veronica Thom about this but have not yet had any reply. Maybe this was created by staff and I cannot edit? can someone assist

 

2. On the right hand sidebar, where it says 'categories' 

the categories which I created are not listed, can someone help?  

 

Thank you!!

 

PDM




Dr Paola Di Maio

Center For Technology Ethics

 

ISTCS.org

Chair: W3C AIKR <https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/>  

 

 

A bit about me <https://about.me/paoladimaio>