Re: AI Concepts & StratML

Thank you Owen and all-

There could be a lot to munch just in this


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> I was already planning to use Paola’s vocabulary form
> <https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/welcome/ai-kr-task-list/vocabulary/>
> to capture the names and definitions of the elements of the StratML
> standard itself.
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like, manually?or using what tool?


> However, if someone can automate the process of gleaning relevant concepts
> from the StratML collection <http://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm>
> itself, which now includes more than 4,000 files
> <http://legisworks.org/StratML/catalogsitemap.html>, that would be great.
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 There may be things out there which could do this.
1. should we ask Adrian Walker to hack this with executable english?
2 Could this tool be useful? http://yaml-online-parser.appspot.com/
3. may there be other tools out there to point to stratml homepage with a
few
selection commands and click 'extract'


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> In the meantime, this Google site-specific query
> <https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=AI&btnG=Google+Search&domains=stratml.us&sitesearch=stratml.us>
> reveals about 200 StratML files referencing “AI”.
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interesting scroll

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> This one
> <https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=KM&btnG=Google+Search&domains=stratml.us&sitesearch=stratml.us>
> reveals 7 referencing “KM”.  However, that listing is incomplete because
> there are more than that listed at http://stratml.us/drybridge/
> index.htm#AIIMKM
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why  do you think the list is incomplete? something missing from the markup?

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> I’m copying Andre Cusson since he has already give much thought to the
> relevance of the StratML standard in the domain of KM.  Links to the
> indices he created several years ago are provided at
> http://stratml.us/#Cusson  See, for example, http://stratml.hyperbase.com/
> values.html
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Nice to meet you Andre

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> BTW, most, if not necessarily all of the elements of the StratML
> vocabulary (plus some elements not yet included in the standard) are
> documented in SKOS format at http://stratml.us/draft/StratMLGlossary.xml
> However, the SKOS reference is informative only.  The schemas themselves
> are authoritative and they are documented at http://stratml.us/#Part1 &
> http://stratml.us/#Part2
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good to know, SKOS is somehow to be regarded



PDM


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> *From:* carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, July 20, 2018 9:27 AM
> *To:* Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@googlemail.com>
> *Cc:* Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>; ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <
> metadataportals@yahoo.com>; public-aikr@w3.org
> *Subject:* Re: IDESG, AIKRCG & Identity
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> Excellent suggestion ... having a Stratml extract based ranking plus
> co-location (semantic distance) should provide an excellent startpoint for
> further discussion
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> It was a pleasure to clarify
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> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 9:14 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
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> Also should be easy to extract a set of AI related keywords from your
> stratml set?
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>  we can then make a long list and 'rank them' collectively
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> and include the top ones in our vocab.
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> wouldnt this make a nice project and one possible paper?
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> cheers
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> Dr Paola Di Maio
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> ISTCS.org and  Chair: W3C AIKR  <https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/>
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> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 4:31 PM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
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> Owen
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> I browsed stratml web page and there seem to be a lot of initiatives
> relevant to CG mission
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> I wonder if one (not me tho) could build a parsing agent to match our cg
> GOAL and mission to other entities
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> and then invite the folks in charge or relevant bits to submit their open
> knowledge schemas and/or documentation
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> if building the agent is too expensive, we could do this manually?
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> just thinking
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> PDM
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> Dr Paola Di Maio
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> Center For Technology Ethics
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> ISTCS.org and  Chair: W3C AIKR  <https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/>
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> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 8:33 PM, Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>
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> IDESG’s mission and objectives are available in StratML format at
> http://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm#IDESG and so too are the goals and
> objectives of this group as identified thus far, at
> http://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm#AIKRCG   I look forward to learning
> how they might mesh and mutually support each other.
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> BTW, as far as personal and organizational identities are concerned, what
> I care most about are personal values supported by longer-term goals and
> near-term objectives realized in performance metrics documented in records
> having the attributes outlined in ISO 15489.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine-Readable_Documents#Definition
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> Owen
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> *From:* carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 18, 2018 9:26 AM
> *To:* Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@googlemail.com>
> *Cc:* ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com>;
> public-aikr@w3.org
> *Subject:* Re: welcome newcomers subgroups, home page and categories
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> To help progress .. please consider using a page with content similar to
> 'concept creation' guidelines
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> o    1.1 What sort of 'thing' is this proposed concept anyway?
> <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#What_sort_of_.27thing.27_is_this_proposed_concept_anyway.3F>
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> o    1.2 How to decide? Is it important?
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> ·         2 Using a Meta-Model (or two)
> <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#Using_a_Meta-Model_.28or_two.29>
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> ·         3 Create a new proposed Concept
> <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#Create_a_new_proposed_Concept>
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> https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_
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> Carl Mattocks
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> It was a pleasure to clarify
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> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 1:55 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
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> Thank you Milton
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> Do you have a way you'd like to propose the way forward?
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> Shall we just create two pages, where we collect existing definitions and
> come up with our own
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> definition that possibly encompasses them all, thus delivers the broadest
> possible meaning?
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> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 3:21 AM, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <
> metadataportals@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Hi Paola and other members of the AIKR community group.
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> Two things we need to establish to reach a consensus of the area we are
> going to deal with.
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> Number one: the broadest possible definition of what constitutes
> "artificial intelligence" and number two what constitutes "knowledge
> representation" also in the broadest possible sense.
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> Only then can we assess what grounds we want or need to cover.
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> It is for that reason I proposed to create and overview map of what
> currently constitutes AI and related disciplines.
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> But I am also writing a definition paper using category theory to
> establish a generalized framework which introduces all possible categories
> of interacting entities, and utilizes a system to define boundaries for AI
> for interaction, as suggested by the likes of Stephen Hawking, Elon Musk,
> Kurzweil and countless others.
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> regards
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> Milton Ponson
> GSM: +297 747 8280
> PO Box 1154, Oranjestad
> Aruba, Dutch Caribbean
> *Project Paradigm*: Bringing the ICT tools for sustainable development to
> all stakeholders worldwide through collaborative research on applied
> mathematics, advanced modeling, software and standards development
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> On Sunday, July 15, 2018 2:41 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
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> Welcome newcomers (22 members!)
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> there's a thread in the mailing list to intro yourselves at your
> convenience
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> Based on other work, and anticipating future developments
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> (Milton mentioned subgroups) I have created a page subgroups, and opened
> two additional pages as containers for future subgroups where some work may
> be needed (AI Ethics KR and Professional schemas).
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> Feel free to edit, add, enter etc
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> https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/subgroups/
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> This is a bit ahead of us perhaps but things are moving fast to have the
> pages may be cognitive support. The professional schema entry may need
> better wording, I have not thought it property yet.
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> I have two issues with our home page, maybe W3C folks on this list can
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> 1. The main text area of the page contains some duplicate text, I dont
> seem to be able to edit/access the upper portion of the group description,
> I have pinged Veronica Thom about this but have not yet had any reply.
> Maybe this was created by staff and I cannot edit? can someone assist
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> 2. On the right hand sidebar, where it says 'categories'
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> the categories which I created are not listed, can someone help?
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> Dr Paola Di Maio
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> Center For Technology Ethics
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