- From: Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
- Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2018 10:50:52 +0530
- To: Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>
- Cc: carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com>, Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@googlemail.com>, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com>, public-aikr@w3.org, Andre Cusson <akhu01@gmail.com>, Jason Lind <jasonl@transformation.run>, Chris Fox <chris@chriscfox.com>, Alejandro Revuelta <alejandro.revuelta@ximdex.com>, Denise Bedford <db233@georgetown.edu>
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Thank you Owen and all- There could be a lot to munch just in this > > I was already planning to use Paola’s vocabulary form > <https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/welcome/ai-kr-task-list/vocabulary/> > to capture the names and definitions of the elements of the StratML > standard itself. > like, manually?or using what tool? > However, if someone can automate the process of gleaning relevant concepts > from the StratML collection <http://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm> > itself, which now includes more than 4,000 files > <http://legisworks.org/StratML/catalogsitemap.html>, that would be great. > There may be things out there which could do this. 1. should we ask Adrian Walker to hack this with executable english? 2 Could this tool be useful? http://yaml-online-parser.appspot.com/ 3. may there be other tools out there to point to stratml homepage with a few selection commands and click 'extract' > > In the meantime, this Google site-specific query > <https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=AI&btnG=Google+Search&domains=stratml.us&sitesearch=stratml.us> > reveals about 200 StratML files referencing “AI”. > interesting scroll > > > This one > <https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=KM&btnG=Google+Search&domains=stratml.us&sitesearch=stratml.us> > reveals 7 referencing “KM”. However, that listing is incomplete because > there are more than that listed at http://stratml.us/drybridge/ > index.htm#AIIMKM > why do you think the list is incomplete? something missing from the markup? > > > I’m copying Andre Cusson since he has already give much thought to the > relevance of the StratML standard in the domain of KM. Links to the > indices he created several years ago are provided at > http://stratml.us/#Cusson See, for example, http://stratml.hyperbase.com/ > values.html > Nice to meet you Andre > > > BTW, most, if not necessarily all of the elements of the StratML > vocabulary (plus some elements not yet included in the standard) are > documented in SKOS format at http://stratml.us/draft/StratMLGlossary.xml > However, the SKOS reference is informative only. The schemas themselves > are authoritative and they are documented at http://stratml.us/#Part1 & > http://stratml.us/#Part2 > > > good to know, SKOS is somehow to be regarded PDM > > > *From:* carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Friday, July 20, 2018 9:27 AM > *To:* Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@googlemail.com> > *Cc:* Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>; ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program < > metadataportals@yahoo.com>; public-aikr@w3.org > *Subject:* Re: IDESG, AIKRCG & Identity > > > > Excellent suggestion ... having a Stratml extract based ranking plus > co-location (semantic distance) should provide an excellent startpoint for > further discussion > > > It was a pleasure to clarify > > > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 9:14 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Also should be easy to extract a set of AI related keywords from your > stratml set? > > we can then make a long list and 'rank them' collectively > > and include the top ones in our vocab. > > wouldnt this make a nice project and one possible paper? > > cheers > > > > P > > > Dr Paola Di Maio > > Center For Technology Ethics > > ISTCS.org and Chair: W3C AIKR <https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/> > > > > > > > > > > *A bit about me <https://about.me/paoladimaio>* > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 4:31 PM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Owen > > I browsed stratml web page and there seem to be a lot of initiatives > relevant to CG mission > > > > I wonder if one (not me tho) could build a parsing agent to match our cg > GOAL and mission to other entities > > and then invite the folks in charge or relevant bits to submit their open > knowledge schemas and/or documentation > > to this cg > > > > if building the agent is too expensive, we could do this manually? > > just thinking > > PDM > > > Dr Paola Di Maio > > Center For Technology Ethics > > ISTCS.org and Chair: W3C AIKR <https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/> > > > > > > > > > > *A bit about me <https://about.me/paoladimaio>* > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 8:33 PM, Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net> > wrote: > > IDESG’s mission and objectives are available in StratML format at > http://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm#IDESG and so too are the goals and > objectives of this group as identified thus far, at > http://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm#AIKRCG I look forward to learning > how they might mesh and mutually support each other. > > > > BTW, as far as personal and organizational identities are concerned, what > I care most about are personal values supported by longer-term goals and > near-term objectives realized in performance metrics documented in records > having the attributes outlined in ISO 15489. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine-Readable_Documents#Definition > > > > Owen > > > > *From:* carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 18, 2018 9:26 AM > *To:* Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@googlemail.com> > *Cc:* ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com>; > public-aikr@w3.org > *Subject:* Re: welcome newcomers subgroups, home page and categories > > > > To help progress .. please consider using a page with content similar to > 'concept creation' guidelines > > > > · > > o 1.1 What sort of 'thing' is this proposed concept anyway? > <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#What_sort_of_.27thing.27_is_this_proposed_concept_anyway.3F> > > o 1.2 How to decide? Is it important? > <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#How_to_decide.3F_Is_it_important.3F> > > o 1.3 Understanding context > <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#Understanding_context> > > o 1.4 The "Conversation" is valuable > <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#The_.22Conversation.22_is_valuable> > > · 2 Using a Meta-Model (or two) > <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#Using_a_Meta-Model_.28or_two.29> > > · 3 Create a new proposed Concept > <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#Create_a_new_proposed_Concept> > > https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_ > Guidelines > > > > Carl Mattocks > > > It was a pleasure to clarify > > > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 1:55 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Thank you Milton > > > > Do you have a way you'd like to propose the way forward? > > > > Shall we just create two pages, where we collect existing definitions and > come up with our own > > definition that possibly encompasses them all, thus delivers the broadest > possible meaning? > > > > Should the group be the 'owner' of these two definitions? > > > > Let me know if you can initiate these two pages > > > > P > > > Dr Paola Di Maio > > Center For Technology Ethics > > > > ISTCS.org > > Chair: W3C AIKR <https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/> > > > > > > *A bit about me <https://about.me/paoladimaio>* > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 3:21 AM, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program < > metadataportals@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Hi Paola and other members of the AIKR community group. > > > > Two things we need to establish to reach a consensus of the area we are > going to deal with. > > > > Number one: the broadest possible definition of what constitutes > "artificial intelligence" and number two what constitutes "knowledge > representation" also in the broadest possible sense. > > > > Only then can we assess what grounds we want or need to cover. > > > > It is for that reason I proposed to create and overview map of what > currently constitutes AI and related disciplines. > > > > But I am also writing a definition paper using category theory to > establish a generalized framework which introduces all possible categories > of interacting entities, and utilizes a system to define boundaries for AI > for interaction, as suggested by the likes of Stephen Hawking, Elon Musk, > Kurzweil and countless others. > > > > regards > > > > Milton Ponson > GSM: +297 747 8280 > PO Box 1154, Oranjestad > Aruba, Dutch Caribbean > *Project Paradigm*: Bringing the ICT tools for sustainable development to > all stakeholders worldwide through collaborative research on applied > mathematics, advanced modeling, software and standards development > > > > On Sunday, July 15, 2018 2:41 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Welcome newcomers (22 members!) > > there's a thread in the mailing list to intro yourselves at your > convenience > > > > Based on other work, and anticipating future developments > > (Milton mentioned subgroups) I have created a page subgroups, and opened > two additional pages as containers for future subgroups where some work may > be needed (AI Ethics KR and Professional schemas). > > Feel free to edit, add, enter etc > > https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/subgroups/ > > > > This is a bit ahead of us perhaps but things are moving fast to have the > pages may be cognitive support. The professional schema entry may need > better wording, I have not thought it property yet. > > > > I have two issues with our home page, maybe W3C folks on this list can > assist? > > > > Here > > https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/ > > > > > > 1. The main text area of the page contains some duplicate text, I dont > seem to be able to edit/access the upper portion of the group description, > I have pinged Veronica Thom about this but have not yet had any reply. > Maybe this was created by staff and I cannot edit? can someone assist > > > > 2. On the right hand sidebar, where it says 'categories' > > the categories which I created are not listed, can someone help? > > > > Thank you!! > > > > PDM > > > Dr Paola Di Maio > > Center For Technology Ethics > > > > ISTCS.org > > Chair: W3C AIKR <https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/> > > > > > > *A bit about me <https://about.me/paoladimaio>* > > [image: Image removed by sender.] > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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