RE: Breakouts Day session proposal proposal

ACK and thanks, Abhinav.

I have posted our proposed session, here:
https://github.com/w3c/breakouts-day-2024/issues/10

Looking forward to discussing this with you all again on the 5th.

Matthew Atkinson
Head of Web Standards
Samsung R&D Institute UK
Samsung Electronics
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kumar, Abhinav <abhina.kumar@sap.com>
> Sent: 26 February 2024 08:42
> To: Matthew Atkinson <m.atkinson@samsung.com>; 'Adapt tf' <public-
> adapt@w3.org>
> Subject: RE: Breakouts Day session proposal proposal
> 
> Hi Matthew,
> 
> Looking forward to the slides and presentation.
> 
> As far as accessibility metadata is concerned - for me that is also
another "well-
> known destination", though we haven't discussed the exact content to be
part
> of the metadata.
> 
> As suggested by you, we can take it up in future when we have more
concrete
> details on it.
> 
> Thanks,
> Abhinav Kumar
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Atkinson <m.atkinson@samsung.com>
> Sent: 24 February 2024 02:05
> To: Kumar, Abhinav <abhina.kumar@sap.com>; 'Adapt tf' <public-
> adapt@w3.org>
> Subject: RE: Breakouts Day session proposal proposal
> 
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> 
> Thanks, Abhinav. When I'm back on the 5th, let's all review the slides
(I'll come
> up with some suggestions before the meeting), and we can discuss whom may
> wish to present what.
> 
> Regarding the scope of the presentation - including the metadata aspect or
not
> - there are two really important things to bear in mind when introducing
new
> ideas to the wider community: (1) ensuring we only present what has
> consensus of the task force that we represent; and (2) keeping it as
simple as
> possible (only introducing one new concept at a time). This can help us on
the
> sometimes longer-than-expected road of making the case for a spec, and
> building consensus within the wider community.
> 
> The metadata work that you suggested is something I think all of us in the
> Adapt TF are interested in exploring further; but at the moment, the task
> force's consensus is that we should pursue the 'well-known destinations'
> part of the work (which includes having a well-known URI for the
accessibility
> statement, as per your suggestion). Whilst we might get consensus around
the
> metadata part in future, we don't have it yet, and we don't really have a
solid
> proposal around it just yet either - so it's not appropriate for us to
include it in
> this breakout session.
> 
> There will be opportunities to shout about the metadata work, should it
gain
> consensus, in future. I think that the W3C conference ("TPAC") in
September
> may be too soon, but it is one possibility.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> 
> Matthew
> 
> Matthew Atkinson
> Head of Web Standards
> Samsung R&D Institute UK
> Samsung Electronics
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kumar, Abhinav <abhina.kumar@sap.com>
> > Sent: 23 February 2024 14:45
> > To: Matthew Atkinson <m.atkinson@samsung.com>; 'Adapt tf' <public-
> > adapt@w3.org>
> > Subject: RE: Breakouts Day session proposal proposal
> >
> > Hi Matthew,
> >
> > Thanks for the proposal. I want to co-present this.
> >
> > I was also thinking if we can present about well-known url for
> accessibility
> > metadata along with well-known destinations, as both logically fit
> together.
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Thanks and Regards,
> > Abhinav Kumar
> > Development Architect
> > SAP Labs India Pvt. Ltd
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matthew Atkinson <m.atkinson@samsung.com>
> > Sent: 23 February 2024 03:05
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> > Subject: Breakouts Day session proposal proposal
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> >
> > Hi Adapt,
> >
> > I'm proposing to propose the following session for Breakouts Day, as
> > we discussed. I am happy to work on the slides, and keen to present -
> > I think
> if we
> > want to bring on co-presenters (should the timing of the session work
> > out) then we can. We should also select a scribe in advance. And of
> course,
> > whilst I'll provide a set of slides, and demo, we'll need all of your
> input to
> > ensure the session reflects the consensus of the group, and has the
> > best
> chance
> > for success.
> >
> > In that spirit - feedback on the proposal is welcome; I hope it
> > captures
> what we
> > have discussed in recent weeks.
> >
> > It's important for me to ensure that the audience understands that
> > this is
> a
> > WAI-Adapt proposal, and not something that comes from/has the backing
> > of the TAG, so I ran it past the TAG co-chairs, just to ensure nobody
> > is
> surprised
> > when the session turns up. I expect to hear back, and be able to make
> > the proposal, by the end of the week (before I drop offline for a
> > week). I'll
> confirm
> > with Lionel and Janina when it's posted.
> >
> > Here it is...
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Title:
> >
> > Exploring making site navigation more accessible, with "well-known
> > destinations"
> >
> >
> > Description:
> >
> > Navigation around sites can be complex, presenting barriers for people
> > who struggle to understand the visual layout, or terminology that a site
uses.
> > However, there are several key sections or pages that can be found
> > across many sites. The WAI-Adapt Task Force is exploring an approach
> > (pending
> > review) to address these barriers.
> >
> > This session introduces the problem, shows how we envisage the
> > solution working, from the user's perspective - via a demo of an
> > interactive
> browser
> > extension - and describes our proposed approach, in order to answer
> > your questions, and gather informal feedback before we apply for
> > horizontal and wide review from the community.
> >
> >
> > Goal:
> >
> > Raise awareness of the challenges of site navigation, and a potential
> simple,
> > semantic, standardised solution
> >
> >
> > Type:
> >
> > Breakout (50-minutes)
> >
> >
> > Additional session chairs (optional):
> >
> > Lionel?
> > [I think we could add some, as required, after the session is
> > scheduled;
> we've
> > done so for previous TPAC breakout sessions.]
> >
> >
> > IRC channel:
> >
> > adapt
> >
> >
> > Conflicting sessions:
> >
> > [ The one that I am going to propose about the tool I've been working
> > on
> to
> > help us track horizontal review issues, actions, and suchlike. ]
> >
> >
> > Instructions for meeting planners, inc time constraints:
> >
> > Meeting must start between 0700 and 2100 UTC.
> >
> >
> > Agenda
> >
> > * Site navigation barriers
> > * What support could look like in the browser (demo)
> > * WAI-Adapt's proposed solution
> > * Next steps (i.e. seeking review)
> > * Discussion
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Matthew Atkinson
> > Head of Web Standards
> > Samsung R&D Institute UK
> > Samsung Electronics
> > +44 7733 238 020
> >
> > Samsung R&D Institute (SRUK), Communications House, South Street,
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