- From: David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 19 May 2023 14:30:50 -0700
- To: Dragana Damjanovic <dragana.damjano@gmail.com>
- Cc: HTTP Working Group <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAPDSy+6OdPeNUYiUDYmzPXS4Gv6is2osM=SUmpScZYuiQfuQuQ@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Dragana, and thanks for writing this up! I agree with you that the main motivations for masking don't matter as much when WebSocket runs over TLS or QUIC (though AEADs without random IVs allow a collaborating client and server to predict the next keymat...). However, it's not clear to me why the overhead of masking matters. I wouldn't expect the XOR to be visible on CPU traces. Is this masking causing noticeable performance issues in your environment? Thanks, David On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 2:11 PM Dragana Damjanovic < dragana.damjano@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I wrote a draft that proposes adding an extension to WebSockets to > negotiate "no-masking". The extension should be used only if intermediaries > cannot see unencrypted traffic. In this case, the masking is not needed, > and omitting it would reduce needed processing. The proposal has some > problems, but I would like to hear the opinion of the group and if people > are interested in such a feature. > > > https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-damjanovic-websockets-nomasking-00.html > > > A problem that I have identified with the proposal is that it will require > TLS terminating middleboxes to change (they will need to remove the > extension from the list), otherwise, servers behind them could wrongly > negotiate the extension. This is not optimal. > > Other approaches I have considered: > > - making it HTTP/2- and HTTP/3-only feature and negotiating it via > settings (In this way it cannot be transfer to unencripted part of a path). > This is not ideal. > > - Creating a new header for the feature and adding it to the “Connection” > header in the case of HTTP/1.1 and transferring it as a setting in the case > of HTTP/2 and HTTP/3, and > > - creating a new version of the WebSocket protocol, but the negotiation of > a new version is not ideal for this purpose and may have the same problems > as my proposal in the draft. > > > Other ideas are welcome. > > I would like to hear your opinion. > > Best, > > Dragana >
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