- From: Greg Wilkins <gregw@intalio.com>
- Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 09:50:38 +0200
- To: HTTP Working Group <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAH_y2NFNBuEYB8OJcao8bFFY56Og5fAUugYw3e07HXE4UFPZKQ@mail.gmail.com>
As I see it, END_SEGMENT is good semantics that does belong in a general framing layer which is designed to carry protocols such as HTTP, Websocket etc. However, because we have conflated the protocol semantics with the framing layer, for HTTP at least we are able to use frame type (eg HEADERs) in place of END_SEGMENT to define semantic boundaries for proxies and intermediaries. So looking at this from an HTTP perspective only, they are not required and we could live without them. But I truly believe that our future is multi-protocol and eventually we will learn that conflating the HTTP layer with framing was a bad idea, and that we will eventually remove frame types like HEADER, PUSH_PROMISE and CONTINUATION, and be left with only DATA frames with segment semantics - which are more than sufficient to send HTTP, Websocket, and other protocol semantics. So my preference would be to keep END_SEGMENT and drop the conflation. But as that is not going to happen, unless websocket is going to use END_SEGMENT in the near future, then I guess it is best to drop it as unused. Note that I understand that websocket will be an extension, and thus it is able to add END_SEGMENT semantics if needed - but this will need all intermediaries to support the extension. If we had not conflated the layers, then many intermediaries would have been able to handle such extensions without explicitly knowing about them - oh well, that's just me crying over spilt milk. -- Greg Wilkins <gregw@intalio.com> http://eclipse.org/jetty HTTP, SPDY, Websocket server and client that scales http://www.webtide.com advice and support for jetty and cometd.
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