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What's AT What's a screen reader

From: Jim Thatcher <jim@jimthatcher.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:53:19 -0500
To: "'David Woolley'" <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <001d01c53936$d2d50440$6501a8c0@jtcom2400>

David Woolley said:

> (Tools like JAWS are AT, not screen readers.)

I just couldn't leave it alone. What possesed you to day this? 

Accessibility Consulting: http://jimthatcher.com/

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> I am wondering, could you have have:
> .hide { display: none; }
> And will screen readers still read that?

CSS conforming user agents will not render that in any medium.

Screen readers used on top of a CSS conforming visual browser obviously 
won't read it.

Assistive technology generally doesn't aim to be conforming (hence
the reason in the other thread that it tends to act as a visual 
browser for CSS when rendering to speech), but rather to try and
work best for the user in the real world.  However, I think it is
a slippery slope to deliberately mis-code pages to make them more
like bad HTML that the AT copes with (not that I'm saying that 
current products override display: none, one way or the other).

(Tools like JAWS are AT, not screen readers.)
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