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Re: Tone

From: Anne Pemberton <apembert@erols.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 17:25:32 -0400
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To: Wendy A Chisholm <wendy@w3.org>, "Jonathan Chetwynd" <j.chetwynd@btinternet.com>, "Charles McCathieNevile" <charles@w3.org>
Cc: "WCAG WG" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>

         Per your note, I'd like to ask those interested in this discussion 
to let me know private email: apembert@erols.com and I will arrange for a 
mailing list to discuss the issue. In addition to Jonathan, Chaals, and 
David P., and Lisa, I hope for input from William and Al ...

         For those who don't see relevancy, consider the number of times 
someone gripes about a "best viewed in xxx" note on a web site ... what is 
a non-confrontational way to tell you how accessible the site may/may not be?


At 04:48 PM 9/27/01 -0400, Wendy A Chisholm wrote:
>I would like to see discussion about a concrete proposal.  If you need to 
>do the appropriate research to write success criteria, examples, 
>definitions, and checkpoint text, then please do so.
>I am not saying if there is not consensus on "item X" then we can't 
>discuss "item X". That's what the group is for: to come to consensus on 
>issues.  What I am saying is "provide a concrete proposal for item X, then 
>we can discuss it and determine the consensus about item X."
>I do not think you will find the expertise on this list.  Therefore, I 
>think you should do the appropriate research to write a proposal and then 
>submit one to the list.
>This is something everyone on the list needs to learn to do - do some 
>research, construct a concrete proposal, then submit it to the group for 
>discussion.  We need to focus on moving through the issues with WCAG 2.0 
>so that we can produce a robust deliverable in a reasonable amount of time.
>At 03:59 PM 9/27/01 , Jonathan Chetwynd wrote:
>>Wendy your tone seems very aggressive, there can be no reason to insist that
>>discussion discontinues,other than consensus.
>>Knowing my abilities you will understand that I am seeking further advice,
>>and gl is the appropriate place.
>>This is a difficult subject, There are plenty of positive examples, as well
>>as more awkward ones.
>>Could we please have some examples which are perhaps novel?
>>commerce and games is a positive one from my experience.
>> >From real life the introduction of 'actors' into museums, has transformed
>>their spirit, from staid to entertaining.
>>(This is making information accessible.)
>>To me the difficulty is not so much the shortage of materials as finding
>>pertinent examples.
>>jonathan chetwynd
>>IT teacher (LDD)
>>http://www.peepo.com         "The first and still the best picture directory
>>on the web"
>wendy a chisholm
>world wide web consortium
>web accessibility initiative
>seattle, wa usa

Anne Pemberton

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