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Re: specialization/alternate in prov-dm

From: Jim McCusker <mccusj@rpi.edu>
Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 08:27:33 -0400
Message-ID: <CAAtgn=Tj0q+-21+0M-BpEZ0h7WGJ9Xmy3e2P7TMnW=Kr6Q5ULg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Jun Zhao <jun.zhao@zoo.ox.ac.uk>
Cc: public-prov-wg@w3.org
Definition 13 is effectively the same as 12, but makes it explicit that
time intervals maybe used, but are not needed.

We voted on this last week and introduced it the week before, you can see
it in the minutes.

Jim
On May 9, 2012 8:10 AM, "Jun Zhao" <jun.zhao@zoo.ox.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi Luc and all,
>
> I understand that this is call for comments or not for voting.:)
>
> I only looked at section 4.4 in the diff file. I see that you are adopting
> the Definitions 13 [1], although I don't recall that as a group we ever
> voted on this.
>
> Anyway, personally, I prefer definitions 12 than 13. Def 13 is a bit too
> specific to my taste:) For example, the mentioning of life span of a
> specialization and a specialized entity. And the mentioning of overlaps
> between alternative entities is vague for me. I don't quite understand what
> we mean by overlapping, what overlaps, the representation themselves?
>
> Believe me, he last thing I want is to trigger another round of
> discussions on this. If I vote, I will vote to have definitions 12 in the
> DM for the above reasons.
>
> btw, I didn't find the "mountains" in the diff file. I hope I read the
> right doc.
>
> [1] http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/**wiki/**SpecializationAlternateDefinit**
> ions#Definitions_13_.**28refinement_of_12.29<http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/SpecializationAlternateDefinitions#Definitions_13_.28refinement_of_12.29>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jun
>
>
> On 08/05/2012 21:09, Luc Moreau wrote:
>
>> I just added 'mountain' as an example of physical thing.
>>
>> On 08/05/12 16:58, Jim McCusker wrote:
>>
>>> Replace building with mountain, I think.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk
>>> <mailto:L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.**uk <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Jim,
>>>
>>> Do you want to suggest an example?
>>>
>>>
>>> Professor Luc Moreau
>>> Electronics and Computer Science
>>> University of Southampton
>>> Southampton SO17 1BJ
>>> United Kingdom
>>>
>>> On 8 May 2012, at 16:48, "Jim McCusker" <mccusj@rpi.edu
>>> <mailto:mccusj@rpi.edu>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  This comment is indirectly derivedFrom this change:
>>>>
>>>> All of the examples of entities are human-created artifacts.
>>>> Should we try to include at least one that wasn't created by a human?
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Luc Moreau
>>>> <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk <mailto:L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.**uk<L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Following resolution [1], the new definitions of
>>>> alternate/specialization/**entity
>>>> have been included in the prov-dm Editor's draft [2].
>>>> For a diff of the changes (since last WD) see [3].
>>>>
>>>> Comments welcome!
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Luc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/**meeting/2012-05-03#resolution_**2<http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/meeting/2012-05-03#resolution_2>
>>>> [2]
>>>> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/**raw-file/default/model/prov-**dm.html<http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html>
>>>> [3]
>>>> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/**raw-file/ce56dc32ba1e/model/**diff.html<https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/ce56dc32ba1e/model/diff.html>
>>>>
>>>> -- Professor Luc Moreau
>>>> Electronics and Computer Science tel: +44 23 8059 4487
>>>> <tel:%2B44%2023%208059%204487>
>>>> University of Southampton fax: +44 23 8059 2865
>>>> <tel:%2B44%2023%208059%202865>
>>>> Southampton SO17 1BJ email:
>>>> l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk <mailto:l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.**uk<l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
>>>> >
>>>> United Kingdom http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~**lavm<http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm>
>>>> <http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/%**7Elavm<http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/%7Elavm>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- Jim McCusker
>>>> Programmer Analyst
>>>> Krauthammer Lab, Pathology Informatics
>>>> Yale School of Medicine
>>>> james.mccusker@yale.edu <mailto:james.mccusker@yale.**edu<james.mccusker@yale.edu>>
>>>> | (203)
>>>> 785-6330 <tel:%28203%29%20785-6330>
>>>> http://krauthammerlab.med.**yale.edu<http://krauthammerlab.med.yale.edu>
>>>>
>>>> PhD Student
>>>> Tetherless World Constellation
>>>> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
>>>> mccusj@cs.rpi.edu <mailto:mccusj@cs.rpi.edu>
>>>> http://tw.rpi.edu
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jim McCusker
>>> Programmer Analyst
>>> Krauthammer Lab, Pathology Informatics
>>> Yale School of Medicine
>>> james.mccusker@yale.edu <mailto:james.mccusker@yale.**edu<james.mccusker@yale.edu>>
>>> | (203) 785-6330
>>> http://krauthammerlab.med.**yale.edu<http://krauthammerlab.med.yale.edu>
>>>
>>> PhD Student
>>> Tetherless World Constellation
>>> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
>>> mccusj@cs.rpi.edu <mailto:mccusj@cs.rpi.edu>
>>> http://tw.rpi.edu
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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