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Re: Table accessibility (was Re: headers attribute)

From: Schalk Neethling <schalk@alliedbridge.com>
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 00:32:03 +0200
Message-ID: <4661EFE3.3030507@alliedbridge.com>
To: aurélien levy <aurelien.levy@free.fr>
CC: public-html@w3.org

Please see below a note from a screen reader user:

"Hi,I just wonder what they would want to do with this information.Web 
site design should not be screen-reader specific at all.It is unlikely 
that one would get any reliable figures, but the two most popular screen 
readers in use today is JAWS and Window-Eyes. All screen-readers use the 
same mechanisms to grab and present the information. What is important 
is not which screen-reader is used, but rather whether the 
browser/browser-plug-in that has to be used to access a web site, 
provides the relevant information to the accessibility layers in the 
operating systems. Other general issues are mostly covered in the 
accessibility guidelines, e.g. not to use images to convey text. As far 
as which versions of the screen-Readers are used, at any one time, I 
would say the last 3 or 4 versions of the screen-readers are in general 
use. These things are expensive and so are their upgrades. People cannot 
always use the latest versions. HTH, Willem"

aurélien levy wrote:
> For my part i can test, jaws 8.0 and nvda and firevox of course.
> I think i can have jaws 6.0 users comment and maybe some homepage reader
> I there any "official" test case out there or everybody test with is 
> own test case ?
> Otherwise maybe we can use :
> http://checker.atrc.utoronto.ca/servlet/ShowCheck?check=245 for 
> headers support and
> http://checker.atrc.utoronto.ca/servlet/ShowCheck?check=244 for scope 
> support
> This is the two test case use by the ATRC Web accessibility checker
> Regards
> Aurélien
>> Finally, an actual test result! I also checked what VoiceOver (the 
>> Mac OS X built-in screen reader) does, and it doesn't support either 
>> scope or headers. I started this wiki page to record test results. 
>> <http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/TableAccessibility>. So far we have 
>> identified no screen readers with actual support for the headers 
>> attribute, though I'm sure there are many more we could test.
>> I'm not sure what other screen readers or particular versions are 
>> important to test. I really wish some accessibility experts would 
>> chime in here! What are the most widely used existing screen readers? 
>> Which, if any, do people on this list have testing access to?
>> Regards,
>> Maciej
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