- From: Alexander Graf <a.graf@aetherworld.org>
- Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 13:02:12 +0200
- To: Mihai Sucan <mihai.sucan@gmail.com>
- Cc: "Bruce Boughton" <bruce@bruceboughton.me.uk>, "Lachlan Hunt" <lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au>, public-html@w3.org
- Message-Id: <97BA6F42-7F0C-4E94-9295-88C23B226B52@aetherworld.org>
On 15.04.2007, at 12:05, Mihai Sucan wrote: > Le Sun, 15 Apr 2007 12:43:48 +0300, Bruce Boughton > <bruce@bruceboughton.me.uk> a écrit: > >> Mihai Sucan wrote: >>> >>> While I personally want a switch like this "always standards- >>> mode", I don't agree with the assumption "we are competent enough >>> to make informed decisions for ourselves". >>> >>> [..] The majority of web developers working in companies *will* >>> make use of this switch unknowingly of the consequences, and then >>> they'll blame IE [n] for breaking their pages (because they >>> relied on some old bugs). >>> >> >> To find themselves in this situation, they must first explicitly >> opt-in to HTML5 standards mode with <!DOCTYPE html>. When IE9 >> comes out and perhaps breaks their sites, they can then add the >> IE8 mode switch. If they were competent enough to find out about >> <!DOCTYPE html> they should be competent enough to find the mode >> switch if hand coding. I would not expect a programmer to program >> Java without referring to the API, so I don't see why we expect >> people hand-coding HTML not to refer to the spec. For those that >> don't hand code their HTML, it is important that tools vendors >> expose this option. > > I don't agree with that. > > The majority of incompetent web developers use tutorials and copy/ > paste script, use frameworks and anything premade. > > Given such switch, frameworks will require it and will only tell > you "please copy/paste the following line at the beginning of the > HTML page". They'll spare the details, if you know what I mean. > > It is inevitable, given the switch, we will end up with tons of > documents relying on buggy behaviour in IE.next. IE n+1 will break > those pages if it doesn't add yet another switch. Why even care about incompetent web developers? I don't want to start a discussion about the trade but seriously, being a web developer requires some skill that a lot of people just don't have. Catering for them and trying to make HTML as simple as possible so that these people won't have any problems is just weird.
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