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Re: Proposed Design Principles updated

From: T.V Raman <raman@google.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 14:37:34 -0700
Message-ID: <17938.51486.964667.727933@retriever.corp.google.com>
To: murray@muzmo.com
Cc: public-html@w3.org


I definitely like the +1 and -1   convention in email.

Murray Maloney writes:
 > 
 > Thank you TV.
 > 
 > Yesterday a couple of people took exception (off list) to me sending out
 > emails that simply used a +1 or a -1 in response to mail to the list.
 > 
 > I explained to them (off list) that I felt that it was appropriate sometimes
 > to simply indicate support or non-support for a position. It helps the
 > writer know that he is on- or off-track.
 > 
 > I take TV Raman's signal of support as a strong signal because of his
 > position on the TAG and his expertise in accessibility.
 > 
 > With all due respect to Dan Connolly who suggested (on list) that the
 > +1 notation may not be helpful. In this case it is.
 > 
 > Thanks again.
 > 
 > Murray
 > 
 > At 09:31 AM 4/3/2007 -0700, T.V Raman wrote:
 > 
 > >1+
 > >
 > >
 > >Murray Maloney writes:
 > >  >
 > >  >
 > >  > >
 > >  > >* Good practice: Separation of content, presentation, interaction
 > >  > >A specification SHOULD allow authors to separate content from both
 > >  > >presentation and interaction concerns.
 > >  > >
 > >  > >(Covered by Mostly Semantic Markup, currently disputed.)
 > >  >
 > >  > This design principle is one that I can live with, whereas "Mostly 
 > > Semantic
 > >  > Markup"
 > >  > is not one that I can live with.
 > >  >
 > >  > I can support a design principle that calls for separation. This is the
 > >  > same principle
 > >  > that has been at play since the earliest days of markup -- GML, SGML, XML.
 > >  > This is one of the key design principles that led to the creation of 
 > > markup.
 > >  >
 > >  > However, the phrase "Mostly Semantic Markup" is overloaded. After all, <b>
 > >  > has semantics and it facilitates for the separation of content and
 > >  > presentation.
 > >  > But I suspect that the proponents of "Mostly Semantic Markup" aren't 
 > > saying
 > >  > that they want more <b>-like elements in HTML.
 > >  >
 > >  > How about we all agree to the Good practice that is codified in WEBARCH
 > >  > and forget about "Mostly Semantic Markup"?
 > >  >
 > >  > Regards,
 > >  >
 > >  > Murray
 > >  >
 > >  >
 > >
 > >--
 > >Best Regards,
 > >--raman
 > >
 > >Title:  Research Scientist
 > >Email:  raman@google.com
 > >WWW:    http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/
 > >Google: tv+raman
 > >GTalk:  raman@google.com, tv.raman.tv@gmail.com
 > >PGP:    http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/raman-almaden.asc
 > 

-- 
Best Regards,
--raman

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