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Minutes from the TF teleconference on 16 May

From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 11:56:47 -0400
To: HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Message-ID: <20130516155647.GA31268@concerto.rednote.net>
Draft minutes from the HTML-A11Y Task Force teleconference of Thursday 16 May are provided below as text, and are available as hypertext at:

http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-html-a11y-minutes.html


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                                                                 HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference

16 May 2013

   See also: IRC log

Attendees

   Present
          MarkS, janina, [IPcaller], paulc, John_Foliot, +1.619.846.aaaa, +7.926.113.aabb, chaals, Cynthia_Shelly, David_MacDonald

   Regrets
          SteveF

   Chair
          Chaals

   Scribe
          janina

Contents

     * Topics
         1. Identify Scribe
         2. Outstanding text team bugs
         3. text bugs
         4. Identify Scribe
         5. Outstanding text team bugs
         6. Longdesc bugs http://www.w3.org/mid/op.wwtyklsqy3oazb@chaals.local
         7. Longdesc Public Draft
     * Summary of Action Items
     _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

   <chaals> trackbot, start meeting

   <trackbot> Date: 16 May 2013

Identify Scribe

   <scribe> scribe: janina

Outstanding text team bugs

text bugs

   ms: No Triage call this week

   <MarkS> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13449

Identify Scribe

Outstanding text team bugs

   ms: Closed based on behavior of IE and FF

   and expectation that gui browsers would do the right thing anyway

   ms: suggests reopen

   cn: Are there other opinions?
   ... To discuss in Triage?

   lw: Suggest TF decision

   cn: Anyone else for reopening
   ... Seems not. So we will leave it

   <chaals> RESOLUTION: 13449 stays closed in the absence of a champion to re-open.

   cn: Anyone noting one that should be closed? Or to discuss one of these?
   ... Noting crickets. Will continue to ping

Longdesc bugs http://www.w3.org/mid/op.wwtyklsqy3oazb@chaals.local

   cn: Reviewing additional remaining bugs
   ... First relates to adding an attribute to denote presence of a longdesc

   <chaals> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21987 -> add attribute

   cn: Propose 21987 to be closed

   crickets

   cn: So is closed
   ... Next

   <chaals> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21894 - define longdesc like cite instead of as a link

   cn: Propose to leave as is
   ... Will close this

   <chaals> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21988 - update URL definition to a link that works

   cn: An editorial issue propose closing
   ... Will be closed

   pc: Wondering whether the longdesc spec supports the linkage the allows direct filing from the spec

   cn: Prefer not to

   <chaals> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-proposals/raw-file/default/longdesc1/longdesc.html -> editor's draft

   <paulc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2013May/0097.html Media TF request

   <paulc> Media TF bug: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22062

   pc: MSE about to go LC, and it is believed this assists that process
   ... No opinion here, simply suggesting the consideration

   cn: Don't believe we need it. It's a simple spec. We've cleared many bugs already.
   ... It raises a risk of expediting bugs that poorly considered
   ... It's just quite easy to file bugs
   ... Notes that many reading the html spec seem to click the button to see what happens

   pc: My only reason to raise is to get wide review
   ... Is true that HTML editorial team always triaging these

   cn: What do others think?

   jf: See no reason for it, especially on this particular attribute. We've researched and defended this so widely and completely

   js: Agree to leave as is

   cn: We'll leave as is
   ... Turns out we need to nothing. The base element auto applies by default
   ... Implementations not necessarily good at this
   ... Unclear this is realword as it's unclear anyone uses base plus longdesc

Longdesc Public Draft

   cn: Proposing to publish as a stabilization draft
   ... Call for consensus Monday
   ... Tobe pub'd Tuesday
   ... Idea is to fix anything remaining before we go LC

   pc: Any working draft from the TF needs approval from HTML and PF

   <paulc> MSE Pre-LC announcement: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013May/0001.html

   pc: For MSE we point people to the editor's draft to avoid the formal Stabilization

   [discussion of timeline implications of the formal process]

   cn: anticipate finishing in spring
   ... Ah, it's the Aussie spring!
   ... Is there objection to a Stabilization Draft publication now?

   RESOLUTION: The Task Force approves publication of a Stabilization Draft for the HTML Image Description extension specification

   jf: Asking about a HTML spec walk through

   cn: We need to raise either here or in Bug Triage

   js: Decision here was to walk through in separate telecons to identify

   cn: Ah, the chairs aren't in the same place on this, so need to discuss in coordination
   ... Any further input for the chairs on this topic?

   pc: review what docs?

   cn: Do essentially what the HTML-WG did with the spec docs

   pc: We expect CFCs soon on some of this soon

   cn: TF would check that it agrees with WG decisions specifically with "does it produce a11y issues or not"

   pc: Suggest determining the order of work and make it visible to the WG

   <paulc> Overview of testing in view of CR exit: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tests-cr-exit.html

   cn: Suggest TF chairs should figure this out with HTML Chairs

   <scribe> ACTION: Charles to set up coordination of spec review for the TF chairs with the HTML WG chairs [recorded in
   http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-html-a11y-minutes.html#action01]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-181 - Set up coordination of spec review for the TF chairs with the HTML WG chairs [on Charles McCathie Nevile - due 2013-05-23].

   <scribe> ACTION: Charles to insure that Leonie is looped into action-181 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-html-a11y-minutes.html#action02]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-182 - Insure that Leonie is looped into action-181 [on Charles McCathie Nevile - due 2013-05-23].

   ms: Notes regrets for next Thursday

   cn: Anyone else?
   ... possibly me

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: Charles to insure that Leonie is looped into action-181 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-html-a11y-minutes.html#action02]
   [NEW] ACTION: Charles to set up coordination of spec review for the TF chairs with the HTML WG chairs [recorded in
   http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-html-a11y-minutes.html#action01]

   [End of minutes]
     _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Found Scribe: janina
Present: MarkS janina [IPcaller] paulc John_Foliot +1.619.846.aaaa +7.926.113.aabb chaals Cynthia_Shelly David_MacDonald
People with action items: charles

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