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TELECON AGENDA - 25 Feb 2009

From: John Boyer <boyerj@ca.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:11:58 -0800
To: public-forms@w3.org
Message-ID: <OFED0BD7D8.44FFB0BA-ON88257568.001174E6-88257568.001184CB@ca.ibm.com>
Regrets so far: None
Start Time: 10:45am Eastern US (15:45Z, except 14:45Z during US DST)
Duration: 90 minutes

Previous minutes: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Feb/0061.html
IRC supplement: http://www.w3.org/2009/02/18-forms-minutes.html

Minute takers rotation list, when not done by Leigh:
Kenneth/MarkS, Raman, Susan, Ulrich/Sebastian, Rafael/Rogelio, 
Charlie, Steven, Erik, Nick, Keith, MarkB/Paul, 

AGENDA ITEMS:
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* = be ready to discuss

Reports, Etc.
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Upcoming telecons

Next FtF

The Forms Newsletter/News items

XForms 1.1
Implementation report progress

XForms Basic 1.0, 1.1

Rich Web Application Backplane


Action Items
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Action Item List:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Feb/0076.html

Administrative Issues
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HTML Validator updates for XForms and "XForms for HTML"
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Nov/0063.html
- Discussed on Nov. 26, 2008

W3C Spec matrix
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Nov/0071.html
- Discussed on Nov. 26, 2008

Forms Task Force
- Latest: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms-tf/2008Jun/0000.html
- Architecture alignment strawman: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0068.html

Fix our shortname issue
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Nov/0096.html
http://www.w3.org/2005/05/tr-versions


PROGRESS ON WORKING GROUP GOALS
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* Issue Classification
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- Lazy authoring improvements
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Feb/0056.html

- Is further response needed on xf:copy on select1
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2009Feb/0019.html

- Handling unspecified and unsupported submission methods
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Feb/0082.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Feb/0062.html

* XForms 1.1 Completion
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Issues
- Delete processing clarification
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2009Feb/0023.html

Latest implementation testing status
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Feb/0049.html

Test suite changes
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Feb/0035.html

Modifications from Erik's action item?
Modifications from Nick's action items?

- Test 10.3.j
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Feb/0048.html

- Test 7.11.2.b
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Feb/0074.html

- Test 11.11.2.a
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Feb/0078.html

- Test B.14a move attribute
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2009Feb/0025.html

- Using submission to validate data
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Feb/0084.html

- relevance pruning before validation
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Feb/0083.html

Other
Ongoing test suite maintenance
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Feb/0038.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Feb/0039.html

Advancing XForms for HTML
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- Assertions
- Examples
- Test Suite

* XForms 1.2 Features
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- Context everywhere
- JSON submissions
- Data driven switch
- case()
- Better expression of default trigger
- submissions that put and get binary resources

Review Possibilities
submission to a "new" window?
XML Events 2?
Dialogs?
See older issues below?

Analyzing Modularization for AJAX Programmers
---------------------------------------------


XForms 2.0
----------
Make progress on Model improvements (optional model, nested model, 
external model)
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Make_model_optional
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Nested_models_for_convenient_grouping_and_composition
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Externally_defined_models_with_src_attribute

Refactor dependencies to detect automatic rebuild conditions and reduce 
circular dependencies
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/att-0069/2008-05-28.html#topic6

Review possibilities

Older issues
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Currency data values, etc.
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Sep/0041.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Sep/0043.html

Validity notification on initial or hidden data
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2008May/0015.html
- Isn't it about time we add an xforms-control-initialize event?
- Seems we need it for modularization to work right
- Defer to face to face meeting

The xforms-link-exception
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2008Aug/0001.html
Discussed Aug. 20, 2008. Need to dispatch xforms-link-error to 
instance rather than link-exception to model. For legacy, if the
link-error bubbles up to model, it could throw link-exception, but
then the author can prevent the exception by cancelling the error
Note: xforms-link-error is not currently cancellable
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2008Aug/0003.html

xforms-submit-done response-body and host language submission result 
targeting
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/0048.html
Discussed 21 May 2008; perhaps only for replace="none"
Concern was about efficiency.  Could add "want-response-body" default 
false in
xforms-submit, then if turned true the response-body would be non-empty in 
the
xforms-submit-done.  Host language could then push response-body content 
to
a new window.

xforms-submit-serialize receives empty submission-body value
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Nov/0061.html
Discussed 03 Dec 2008; decided to allow future version feature that
helps control whether submission body is empty on start
Context info of xforms-submit could provide a writable flag


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