- From: Gavin Kistner <gavin.kistner@anark.com>
- Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 09:21:35 -0600
- To: <xmlschema-dev@w3.org>
> From: noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com > > Michael's answer is correct as far as I know. > Perhaps a little bit of perspective might be useful: <snip> That was very helpful. Thanks so much for the response. I can see how it would be difficult--and, to some degree, pointless--for the schema spec to allow the validation of arbitrary data formats like the terse SVG path data attribute. A schema should surely not be used to mark up a document with a single xml-element whose contents are well-structured non-xml text. It does seem a little odd that the spec 'halfway' supports lists. (Though I prefer what it does allow over having no support for lists. :) I suppose the confusion is that the W3C doesn't seem to have decided if list attribute types are semantic enough or not. The XML DTD spec seems to say, "Yes, specifically for the IDREFS type." The XML Schema spec seems to say, "Maybe. Everyone uses them, so we'll let you mark them up, but using them for cross-referencing...well, that's just crazy." I do understand the historical WG perspective. However, I want to make sure that from a author's perspective, the end result is that the XML Schema allows gobs more power than DTDs, including the ability to impose some very powerful validating structure on some seriously terse non-XML data formats...but at the same time fails to provide support for a basic form of terse 1-to-many referencing that was available in DTDs. I previously had decided that tradeoffs between verbose-but-very-clear schema and terse-but-processor-specific schema was something every author had to make for themselves. However, with the increasing popularity of BinXML-type conversions from a schema to a binary XML format (and not just gzip-compressed like SVG allows), I wonder if perhaps the most explicit, verbose schema is now the best choice in general. (Under the possibly flawed assumption that a clearer schema allows the production of a binary at least as tight as one with chunks of application-specific data.) Since I have control over my particular XML format, and a company may be producing a binary representation from it, I can certainly go with the verbose 1-to-many referencing that the schema allows. (Or, as Noah mentions, I can use the list-style reference and just not have the schema able to ensure the validity of the reference.) I'm not trying to argue with the chosen perspective. Just providing my own perspective. I would personally have rather had full-support for the terse common case rather than half support for the expression of terse arbitrary patterns.
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