- From: Tony Graham <Tony.Graham@Sun.COM>
- Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 16:31:55 +0100
- To: xml-dist-app@w3.org
From paswa61.html [1] onwards, there has been several statements made about the desirability and feasability of applying digital signatures to messages with attachments, but usually without saying who will design the canonicalization (c14n) algorithms to use or how to sign the "value space" [0095] when the "abstract process" is that "[t]he application adds any binary attachment to the SOAP message infoset as base64 encoded content." [0145] 1. Who is expected to invent the c14n algorithm to be used when signing the "value space"? Note that the W3C XML Signature and XML Encryption activities closed in May 2003. [2] 2. Given the widespread assumption of signing the "value space", "raw octets", or "binary data", is it more correct that the "abstract process" is that "the application adds any binary attachment to the SOAP message as binary content" and that it's only "inefficient implementations" that will add attachments as "base64 encoded content"? Regards, Tony Graham ------------------------------------------------------------------------ XML Technology Center - Dublin Sun Microsystems Ireland Ltd Phone: +353 1 8199708 Hamilton House, East Point Business Park, Dublin 3 x(70)19708 Background Information ====================== Section 8, Security Considerations, of paswa61.html [1] includes: Current XML signature algorithms require signing the included data as base64-encoded characters; the lexical form of such characters SHOULD be canonicalized. (A suitable algorithm may be under development by the XML Schema WG.) However, note that an include-aware canonicalization algorithm may be able to eliminate the need to convert between the raw octets and base64-encoded characters. On May 8, Marc Hadley referred to "an attachment/xninc:Include aware C14N algorithm that allows signing of the raw attachment octets (base64 encoding not required)." [0038] Also on May 8, Mark Nottingham proposed "An alternative is to use a signature algorithm that (perhaps selectively) operates on the value space of the content, rather than the lexical space." [0044] Later on May 8, Mark Nottingham added: I think an appropriate question is whether it's a problem we (XMLP) need to provide a solution for, as it's rather specific to digital signatures, and therefore might be better considered elsewhere. I do agree that we need to investigate enough to assure that it's solveable, which we appear to be doing. [0048] On May 14, Martin Gudgin stated: WRT disg we could define a C14N algorithm that ALWAYS works on the value space ( raw octets ) or one that ALWAYS works on the lexical space ( base64 chars as UTF-8 ). The former will cause extra work for non-PASWA nodes, the latter will cause extra work for PASWA nodes. [0095] However, as quoted above, paswa61.html states "the lexical form of [base64-encoded] characters SHOULD be canonicalized" so there is presumably extra work for non-PASWA nodes in both cases. The "Notes" in the message "PASWA in terms of a binding mechanism" from Herve Ruellan on May 28 state: - Efficient implementations of these processes will provide ways for directly transfering the binary data from the application to the binding (or the reverse) without having to pass through the encoding/decoding process. - The *abstract representation* of binary attachments as base64 encoded content allows non PASWA enabled SOAP features to handle correctly the message. For example a signature feature will be able to sign the message by signing the binary attachment as base64 encoded content (for efficient implementation, this will require a base64 encoding step). - Some SOAP feature can also have efficient implementations by accessing directly the binary data and not asking for the base64 encoded data. For example, a PASWA enabled encryption feature could encrypt directly the binary data. This same PASWA enabled encryption feature could also transfer the encrypted data directly as binary to the binding instead of storing it in the SOAP message as base64 content. [1] http://www.gotdotnet.com/team/jeffsch/paswa/paswa61.html [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-members/2003AprJun/0028 [0038] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2003May/0038.html [0044] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2003May/0044.html [0095] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2003May/0095.html [0145] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2003May/0145.html
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