- From: Williams, Stuart <skw@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
- Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 20:58:34 -0000
- To: "'Jacek Kopecky'" <jacek@systinet.com>, "Williams, Stuart" <skw@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
- Cc: xml-dist-app@w3.org, Marc Hadley <marc.hadley@sun.com>
Hi Jacek, Knowing that '../next' faulted might not be too useful! Stuart > -----Original Message----- > From: Jacek Kopecky [mailto:jacek@systinet.com] > Sent: 30 January 2002 20:46 > To: Williams, Stuart > Cc: xml-dist-app@w3.org; Marc Hadley > Subject: RE: Proposed rewrite of Part 1, section 2 (long) > > > Stuart, > I don't think we want to identify the node that faulted because > nowhere in the messages nodes are identified in any way (other > than via extensions maybe). I think identifying the role is quite > sufficient. > And I think I should add that I, too, could live with > non-renamed actor, even though I prefer renaming a lot. > Best regards, > > Jacek Kopecky > > Senior Architect, Systinet (formerly Idoox) > http://www.systinet.com/ > > > > On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Williams, Stuart wrote: > > > Hi Jacek, > > > > Interesting point... when faulting do we want to/need to > > provide a standard way to identify both the role and the > > node that faulted? > > > > On the substantive issue, I prefer the narrative of the > > NoActor version, but I could live without changing the > > attribute name to role - although that would perhaps leave > > some potential for confusion. > > > > Regards > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jacek Kopecky [mailto:jacek@systinet.com] > > > Sent: 30 January 2002 14:38 > > > To: Marc Hadley > > > Cc: xml-dist-app@w3.org > > > Subject: Re: Proposed rewrite of Part 1, section 2 (long) > > > > > > > > > +1 on the NoActor version (with renaming from actor to role). > > > Obviously, section 4 will be affected by the change, too. What > > > may not be obvious is that faultactor should also be renamed to > > > faultrole if we go this route. > > > > > > Jacek Kopecky > > > > > > Senior Architect, Systinet (formerly Idoox) > > > http://www.systinet.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Marc Hadley wrote: > > > > > > > All, > > > > > > > > The editors have been tasked with improving the overall > > > readability of > > > > the specification and as part of this we would like to > > > propose a rewrite > > > > of section 2. This section has been the subject of a > great deal of > > > > "micro-editing" and we are concerned not to lose any > > > detail that may > > > > have been hard fought over in the past. To aid your > review we are > > > > including redlined versions of each proposal that show the > > > differences > > > > between the current WD and the proposed rewrite. The > > > redlined version's > > > > filenames are suffixed with "_RL". > > > > > > > > The editors would actually like to propose 2 alternative > > > rewrites, both > > > > of which remove the term "anonymous actor" which is not > > > used elewhere in > > > > the specification and is not in the glossary: > > > > > > > > (i) The first "SoapProcessingModel.htm" and > > > "SoapProcessingModel_RL.htm" > > > > is the less radical of the two and maintains the current > > > terminology > > > > around SOAP actor and roles. > > > > > > > > (ii) The second "SoapProcessingModelNoActor.htm" and > > > > SoapProcessingModelNoActor_RL.htm" proposes more radical > > > changes. The > > > > specification's current use of the word actor is > > > counter-intuitive, e.g. > > > > we speak about SOAP nodes assuming roles named by SOAP > > > actors. In real > > > > life roles are not named by actors, actors play roles and > > > this can lead > > > > to some confusing wording. The second rewrite assumes that > > > we rename the > > > > "actor" attribute to "role". > > > > > > > > Marc (on behalf of the other editors: Gudge, Jean-Jacques > > > and Henrik) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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