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RE: Article: Fat protocols slow Web services

From: Champion, Mike <Mike.Champion@SoftwareAG-USA.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:52:04 -0500
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Gunter [mailto:dkgunter@lbl.gov]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:56 AM
> To: Kurt Cagle
> Cc: xml-dist-app@w3.org
> Subject: Re: Article: Fat protocols slow Web services

> Also, a counter example to web services for business is the nascent 
> effort from some academic and government research institutions to use 
> web services as an interoperability layer for the Grid 
> [http://www.gridforum.org],

First, I suspect that what Kurt meant by "business" is something like
"controlled environments where strong data models and tightly coupled
business and IT processes can be established." That may not characterize
very many businesses, and may characterize a few government and academic
organizations, but I suspect that orderly worlds behind the firewall are
more common in business than elsewhere.  Would anyone seriously disagree
that the current generation of SOAP-based technologies is a much easier
"sell" for application integration behind the firewall than it is for wide
deployment over the internet? Or am I missing the point here entirely?

Also, I simply don't see the relationship between gridforum.org and this
discussion.  Something like the Grid might indeed be a friendlier
environment for synchronous, tightly coupled web services than the Web as we
know it today, but it does it preclude the asynch/loose coupled approach
that Kurt described?   
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