- From: Jacek Kopecky <jacek@systinet.com>
- Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:54:11 +0100 (CET)
- To: Andrew Layman <andrewl@microsoft.com>
- cc: <xml-dist-app@w3.org>
Andrew,
as I showed for example in [1] and [2], graps with loops can be
serialized using only lexically backward references if the
referenced data can be serialized inline.
[1] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/soapbuilders/message/5594
[2] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/soapbuilders/message/5592
Jacek Kopecky
Senior Architect, Systinet (formerly Idoox)
http://www.systinet.com/
On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Andrew Layman wrote:
> Forward references are necessary in graphs that have loops.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Asir S Vedamuthu [mailto:asirv@webmethods.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 5:35 AM
> To: Jacek Kopecky; xml-dist-app@w3.org
> Subject: Re: summary of soapbuilders discussion about inlining multirefs
>
> <snip> [1]
> "There were various points that people were pointing out:
> 1) maybe we should also disallow forward references
> ..
> Now let me detail the points.
> 1) Some people felt forward references might be bad, other felt
> my original proposal disallowed forward references. I propose to
> keep forward references because they allow references from
> headers to body, which might be necessary for things like
> XMLDSIG, although any other referencing mechanism (most probably
> XML IDREF) could be used instead of SOAP Encoding referencing."
> </snip>
>
> I guess you are referring to id and href mechanism for representing
> multi-references.
>
> In your proposal for Issue # 30 [2], you said that
>
> "remove the mentions of the attribute information items 'id'
> and 'href' from sections 2 of both parts of the spec, for these
> are encoding-specific attributes,"
>
> OK, so id and href are encoding-specific attributes.
>
> First, a question of clarification - you used the word necessary; why
> would
> XMLDSIG use SOAP Encoding specific attributes for referencing? Are they
> currently using it?
>
> Second, like others, I also believe that forward references are bad.
> 'Cos,
> there is very limited payoff for a big cost.
>
> [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2001Oct/0231.html
> [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2001Oct/0244.html
>
> Regards,
>
> Asir S Vedamuthu
>
> webMethods, Inc.
> 703-460-2513 or asirv@webmethods.com
> http://www.webmethods.com/
>
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