- From: Jacek Kopecky <jacek@systinet.com>
- Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:54:11 +0100 (CET)
- To: Andrew Layman <andrewl@microsoft.com>
- cc: <xml-dist-app@w3.org>
Andrew, as I showed for example in [1] and [2], graps with loops can be serialized using only lexically backward references if the referenced data can be serialized inline. [1] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/soapbuilders/message/5594 [2] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/soapbuilders/message/5592 Jacek Kopecky Senior Architect, Systinet (formerly Idoox) http://www.systinet.com/ On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Andrew Layman wrote: > Forward references are necessary in graphs that have loops. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Asir S Vedamuthu [mailto:asirv@webmethods.com] > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 5:35 AM > To: Jacek Kopecky; xml-dist-app@w3.org > Subject: Re: summary of soapbuilders discussion about inlining multirefs > > <snip> [1] > "There were various points that people were pointing out: > 1) maybe we should also disallow forward references > .. > Now let me detail the points. > 1) Some people felt forward references might be bad, other felt > my original proposal disallowed forward references. I propose to > keep forward references because they allow references from > headers to body, which might be necessary for things like > XMLDSIG, although any other referencing mechanism (most probably > XML IDREF) could be used instead of SOAP Encoding referencing." > </snip> > > I guess you are referring to id and href mechanism for representing > multi-references. > > In your proposal for Issue # 30 [2], you said that > > "remove the mentions of the attribute information items 'id' > and 'href' from sections 2 of both parts of the spec, for these > are encoding-specific attributes," > > OK, so id and href are encoding-specific attributes. > > First, a question of clarification - you used the word necessary; why > would > XMLDSIG use SOAP Encoding specific attributes for referencing? Are they > currently using it? > > Second, like others, I also believe that forward references are bad. > 'Cos, > there is very limited payoff for a big cost. > > [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2001Oct/0231.html > [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2001Oct/0244.html > > Regards, > > Asir S Vedamuthu > > webMethods, Inc. > 703-460-2513 or asirv@webmethods.com > http://www.webmethods.com/ >
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