- From: David Martin <martin@ai.sri.com>
- Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 22:59:57 -0700
- To: "Dickinson, Ian J" <Ian.Dickinson@hp.com>
- CC: "'www-ws@w3.org'" <www-ws@w3.org>
Dickinson, Ian J wrote: >David - >Thanks for your comments. I'm very reassured that you're intending to open >up the technical discussions, and that there aren't any IP barriers to >adopting DAML-S technology. We've just completed four days of very >interesting and productive discussion around DAML-S and semantic web >services in general, with participation from various HPL project teams and >Marta Sabou from Vrije University Amsterdam. We hope to write up interim >results in the near future, although the August holiday season will have >some impact. > >One other question, if you don't mind: what's the nature of the relationship >between the DAML-S consortium and the SWSI Language initiative? I notice >that many, though not all, of the individuals concerned are on both bodies. >Is SWSI-L intended to subsume DAML-S, or are they in some way independent of >each other? > > This is still somewhat of an open question. In general, the idea is for SWSI-L to take DAML-S/OWL-S as a primary input, retaining and refining it, but also learning from its weaknesses. That is, it will take (is taking) a fresh look at all the issues, and will build on OWL-S to the extent that seems advantageous, but will deviate from OWL-S in the areas where it seems important to do so. In the meantime, the DAML-S Coalition has an incentive to continue to strengthen DAML-S/OWL-S as much as possible so that SWSI-L will retain more of it. Regards, David > >Thanks again, >Ian > > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: David Martin [mailto:martin@ai.sri.com] >>Sent: 01 August 2003 19:09 >>To: Dickinson, Ian J >>Cc: 'www-ws@w3.org' >>Subject: Re: DAML-S input >> >> >>Hi Ian - >> >>Dickinson, Ian J wrote: >> >> >>>We are in the midst of a fairly intense discussion on DAML-S (and >>>OWL-S) in our lab. This has raised a number of issues, >>> >>> >>problems and >> >> >>>questions about the languages and their use. What is a good way to >>>report these back to the DAML-S consortium? Two obvious >>> >>> >>extremes are >> >> >>>to post one message here on www-ws per issue, to allow a suitably >>>threaded discussion, or to post a paper discussing all of >>> >>> >>the problems >> >> >>>- which would be more compact but harder to respond to. I'd >>>appreciate some suggestions. >>> >>> >> From the perspective of the DAML-S Coalition, either of these >>approaches would be fine, and welcome. I guess it's whatever is most >>convenient and productive in terms of your time constraints, etc. >> >> >> >>>I know that some of the problems that we are encountering have been >>>identified before - but I couldn't find an issue list or >>> >>> >>issue tracker >> >> >>>for DAML-S. Does such a thing exist? >>> >>> >>No. There's an informal hand-crafted "rationale" page and a "status" >>page on the DAML-S release site, which might be relevant, but >>I'm afraid >>they haven't been maintained very rigorously. >> >>Also, of course, the www-ws archives are available. >> >> >> >>>Finally, why are the consortium discussions private? DAML-S is a >>>public specification; other standards bodies (e.g. W3C) make the >>>standards committees' deliberations open to the community to read >>>(even if participation is restricted). I notice the same lack of >>>visibility is true for SWSI. >>> >>> >>You are right that a good deal of our technical discussions (in both >>groups) have taken place on private lists, and many of us are >>concerned >>about this. It has been more the result of habit, tradition, and >>convenience than anything else. Actually we have discussed this >>recently and we intend to increase our use of this list (www-ws) for >>technical discussions. >> >>Does it suggest that consortium members have or are going to >> >> >>>assert intellectual property claims on the resulting specification? >>> >>> >>No. Our use of private discussions has had nothing to do with IP >>considerations. >> >> If so, >> >> >>>are the terms of these claims public? >>> >>> >>There aren't any such claims. Noone in either the DAML-S >>Coalition or >>in SWSI has ever expressed any interest in establishing any >>IP claims in >>connection with this work. >> >>Anyway, thanks for your comments, and we welcome your input >>on technical >>issues. Also, please bear with us - we really are beginning >>to increase >>our use of public e-mail discussions. >> >>Regards, >>David Martin >> >>
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