- From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
- Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 16:58:26 -0800
- To: <www-ws-desc@w3.org>
0. Dial in information (members only) [.1]:
See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents and other
information, and the private page [.3] for administrative matters.
If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list
before the start of the telcon.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2004Nov/0015.html
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin
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Agenda
1. Assign scribe. Lucky minute taker for this week is one of:
Umit Yalcinalp, Amy Lewis, William Vambenepe, Erik Ackerman,
Jean-Jacques Moreau, Igor Sedukhin, Jeff Mischkinsky,
David Orchard, Asir Vedamuthu, Dale Moberg, Bijan Parsia,
Sanjiva, Tom Jordahl, Paul Downey, Hugo Haas
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2. Approval of minutes:
- Nov 4 [.1]
- FTF Nov 9-11 [.2, .3, .4] and Summary [.5]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Nov/0012.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Nov/0037.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Nov/0038.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Nov/0039.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Nov/0040.html
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3. Review of Action items [.1]. Editorial actions [.2].
? 2004-04-01: Marsh will get schema tf going.
? 2004-09-02: Bijan to create stylesheet to generate a
table of components and properties.
? 2004-09-16: Editors to move App C to RDF Mapping spec,
except the frag-id which will move
within media-type reg appendix.
? 2004-09-16: Editors to fix paragraph 6-9 of section
2.1.1 moved into 2.1.2
which talks about the syntax.
? 2004-09-30: Arthur to add Z notation to Part 1.
? 2004-10-07: Paul to set up test suite directory
structure (Hugo assist)
? 2004-10-07: Primer editors to use the new
terms "Web service" and "consumer|client".
? 2004-10-14: Arthur to prototype a javascript
implementation and decide on the two doc's
vs javascript method later.
? 2004-10-14: Editors to add a statement like:
The Style property may constrain both
input and output, however a particular
style may constrain in only one
direction. In Section 2.4.1.1 of Part 1.
(subsumed by LC21 resolution?)
? 2004-10-21: Glen to respond to Tim Ewald re: LC9.
? 2004-10-28: Glen to write up the relation between
features and modules for LC18.
DONE [.3] 2004-11-04: DBooth to define the meaning of
wsdl:required in terms of the document,
rather than processor behavior.
? 2004-11-09: DBooth and roberto to describe
option 2 (remove definition of processor
conformance, write up clear guidelines
to developers) (LC5f)
? 2004-11-09: DaveO to work on text for option
3 (redefining conformance in terms
of building the component model)
(LC5f)
? 2004-11-09: DaveO will recast the @compatibleWith
proposal using an extension namespace.
(LC54)
? 2004-11-10: Asir to implement resolutions
adopted at this FTF.
? 2004-11-10: Part 3 Editors to roll in Asir's changes.
? 2004-11-10: Sanjiva to write the rationale for
rejecting LC75a
? 2004-11-10: Roberto to write up the addition of
infault and outfault at the binding
level plus modifications at the
component model. (LC55)
? 2004-11-10: Glen will post an e-mail describing
the compromise proposal on formal objections.
? 2004-11-10: DBooth will produce text for the spec
re: slide 12 of his presentation.
? 2004-11-10: Editor remove ambiguity if it exists
DONE 2004-11-10: Jonathan to create 3 new issues
from slide 25 on points 1, 2, and 4
? 2004-11-10: Sanjiva will write up this proposal
and email it to the list as a response
to the objection.
? 2004-11-11: Hugo to update the makefile to
generate the spec with Z
? 2004-11-11: Arthur to write up a sample of what
a rewritten spec using an infoset-based
component model would look like
? 2004-11-11: Arthur to issue a call for test documents
? 2004-11-11: Anish to propose additions to the
test suite for the purpose of
interoperability testing.
? 2004-11-11: Hugo to ask the XMLP wg to clarify the
issue around the response in the
SOAP/HTTP binding (LC50)
? 2004-11-11: DBooth and Anish to clarify what
a node is (LC50)
? 2004-11-11: Editors of part 2 and 3 to add text
about WSDLMEP and SOAP mep mapping that
points to section 2.3 of part 3 (LC48b)
DONE [.4] 2004-11-11: Hugo send email about what HTTP request
is when in-only is used (LC59a)
DONE [.5] 2004-11-11: Hugo to check the HTTP bindings really
support the MEPs it claims to support (LC59a)
DONE [.6] 2004-11-11: Hugo to contact Amy with our
interpretation and ask for clarification (LC76c)
? 2004-11-11: Umit to check on operation@style (LC61a)
? 2004-11-11: Roberto check on comments in 74e and come
up with proposal. (LC74e)
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/actions.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Nov/0015.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Nov/0025.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Nov/0029.html
[.6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Nov/0026.html
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4. Administrivia
a. Jan 20,21 Melbourne, Australia hosted by BEA [.1]
b. Mar 3,4? Boston
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2004Nov/0014.html
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5. New (non-LC) Issues. Issues list [.1].
- Media Type tbd
[.1]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.h
tml
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6. Last Call Issues [.1]. Comments list [.2]
- LC74a-g: I18N Comments, WSDL 2.0 Part I (partial)
- LC75a-x: WSDL 2.0 LC Comments
- LC76a-d: WSDL 2.0 LC Comments (Part 2)
- LC77a-b: WSDL 2.0 LC Comments (Part 3)
- LC78: Editorial comments on WSDL 2.0 Part 1
- LC79: Make sure in-only mep is supported in wsdl soap12 binding
- LC80: Extension Components are not Described
- LC81: The Component Model is Underconstrained wrt the WSDL 2.0
Schema
- LC82: Operation Name Mapping Requirement Bug
- LC83: The Component Model Does Not Enforce Component Nesting
- LC84a-c: Operation Name Mapping Requirement prez
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-desc-comments/
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7. Media Type Description [.1] Last Call published
- Jonathan to collect issues for future telcon
[.1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-xml-media-types-20041102/
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8. Issue LC5f: QA Review on WSDL 2.0 Part 1, intro and conformance
issues (f) [.1]
- Roberto's proposal [.2]
- No final resolution from FTF, AIs to DBooth/Roberto and DaveO
to write up competing proposals
- Potential new issues:
1) Is it clear that a server must implement everything it's
description says it does?
2) Un-recognized required features result in components,
un-recognized
required element-based extensions don't. Why the difference?
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC5f
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Oct/0027.html
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9. Issue LC29b: Review of WSDL 2.0 Pt 3 Last Call WD (b) [.1]
Issue LC18: Relationship between Features and SOAP Modules ?? [.2]
- Awaiting Glen's action
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC29b
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC18
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10. Issue LC54: WSDL Last Call issue
- Awaiting DaveO's further action to cast @compatibleWith as an
extension
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC54
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11. binding/operation/infault|outfault issues:
- Issue LC55: WSDL Last Call issue [.1]
- Issue LC56: Clarification for binding fault [.2]
- Issue LC61d: comments on the wsdl 2.0 working drafts (d) [.3]
- Awaiting Roberto's further action
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC55
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC56
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC61d
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12. Issue LC50: Message Exchange Patterns -- p2c and/or p2e [.1]
- Discussion with XMLP WG [.2]
- Awaiting DBooth action
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC50
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Nov/0025.html
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13. Issue LC76c: WSDL 2.0 LC Comments (Part 2) (c) [.1]
- Hugo and Amy talk at [.2, .3]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC76c
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Nov/0026.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Nov/0027.html
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14. Issue LC74e: I18N Comments, WSDL 2.0 Part I (partial) (e) [.1]
- Awaiting Roberto's further action
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC74e
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15. Composition Edge Case issues
- Issue LC20: Feature Composition Edge Cases [.1]
- Issue LC27: Property Composition Edge Cases [.2]
- Need Glen's input
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC20
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC27
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16. Issue LC24: "ad:mustUnderstand" - ?? [.1]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC24
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17. Issue LC53: Optional predefined features in Part 2 [.1]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC53
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18. Issue LC61f: comments on the wsdl 2.0 working drafts (f) [.1]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC61f
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19. Issue LC76d: WSDL 2.0 LC Comments (Part 2) (d) [.1]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC76d
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20. Issue LC28: HTTP Transfer Coding and 1.0 [.1]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC28
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21. Issue LC47: Issue: describing the HTTP error text for
faults [.1]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC47
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22. Issue LC52a: Last call review comments (a) [.1]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC52a
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23. Issue LC60: Can multiple inline schemas have same targetNS? [.1]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC60
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24. Issue LC74: Idle question [.1]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC74
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25. Issue LC75s: WSDL 2.0 LC Comments (s) [.1]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC75s
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26. Issue LC75t: WSDL 2.0 LC Comments (t) [.1]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC75t
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27. Issue LC75w: WSDL 2.0 LC Comments (w) [.1]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC75w
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28. Other LC issues as time allows [.1]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/
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Hold for future meetings
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30. Task Force Status.
a. QA & Testing
- Suggested QA plan [.1]
- More details from Arthur [.2]
- Interop bake-off
b. Schema versioning
- Waiting to hear back from Schema on my draft "charter."
- Henry's validate-twice write-up [.3]
[.1]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Apr/att-0029/QA_Oper
ational_Checklist.htm
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Apr/0037.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Apr/0019.html
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