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RE: Describing which blobs are to be optimized.

From: Ugo Corda <UCorda@SeeBeyond.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 09:12:30 -0700
Message-ID: <EDDE2977F3D216428E903370E3EBDDC9032B8B33@MAIL01.stc.com>
To: "Amelia A Lewis" <alewis@tibco.com>
Cc: <www-ws-desc@w3.org>, <hugo@w3.org>, <xml-dist-app@w3.org>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Amelia A Lewis [mailto:alewis@tibco.com] 
> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 7:32 AM
> To: Ugo Corda
> Cc: www-ws-desc@w3.org; hugo@w3.org; xml-dist-app@w3.org
> Subject: Re: Describing which blobs are to be optimized.
> On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 15:57:20 -0700
> Ugo Corda <UCorda@SeeBeyond.com> wrote:
> > I also have my doubts about the rationale for focusing on 
> the endpoint 
> > declaration of the provider agent. For instance, what does that 
> > endpoint mean in the case of an Out-only pattern? Wouldn't 
> it be more 
> > useful to have the endpoint declaration of the "requester" agent 
> > instead?
> Only if you're locked into thinking about HTTP and 
> client/server models.
> In a pub/sub world, an out-only pattern (or any out-initial 
> pattern) is a nice fit, and we expect to see these widely 
> used.  This is because, in pub/sub, the service is talking, 
> not listening; publishing, not serving. 
> The other nodes interacting with the service are not 
> requesters/clients, but listeners/subscribers.

That's exactly my point. In that kind of scenario, it should more
important to focus on the endpoint of the listener/subscriber than on
the endpoint of the service itself.

> > I don't see why it should be that way and why we should assume that 
> > the provider agent's behavior is better known than the requester 
> > agent's behavior.
> Because the WSDL is always from the point of view of the 
> service.  

This sounds more like an article of faith than a rational explanation. 
In any case, if you guys have already gone over this before, I won't
insist (but I remain skeptical about the soundness of this assumption).

> This is ground we have gone over multiple times.
> Amy!
> -- 
> Amelia A. Lewis
> Senior Architect
> TIBCO/Extensibility, Inc.
> alewis@tibco.com
Received on Monday, 14 June 2004 12:13:01 UTC

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