- From: Umit Yalcinalp <umit.yalcinalp@oracle.com>
- Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 13:46:37 -0800
- To: Glen Daniels <gdaniels@sonicsoftware.com>
- Cc: Savas Parastatidis <Savas.Parastatidis@newcastle.ac.uk>, Amelia A Lewis <alewis@tibco.com>, distobj@acm.org, www-ws-desc@w3.org
- Message-ID: <403A74BD.4060201@oracle.com>
Glen Daniels wrote: >Hi Savas, all: > > > >>>"message exchange pattern" is a much better term than >>> >>> >>"operation", but >> >> >>>we *don't* want to end up in another argument about naming, >>> >>> >>please the >> >> >>>gods of small forest pools and sandy ocean beaches. >>> >>> >>In fact, if people in this mailing list (that's the ws-desc >>one) remember, Jim and I proposed the renaming of >>/interface/operation to /interface/messageExchange and during >>the discussion more terms were mentioned... >>/interactions/messageExchange or /interactions/exchange (was >>it issue #88?). >> >> > >Yep, and Sanjiva suggested renaming this to "interaction" as well (which >I liked). > > > >>I think the above much better captures the role of WSDL (at >>least as the way Jim and I see it... and I guess Amy). We are >>talking about a description of the message exchange patterns >>and the formats of those messages. We are not describing >>interfaces. Many toolkits have been treating WSDL as an IDL >>for objects and that complete misses the point of Web >>Services and as all of us know, Web Services != Distributed >>objects :-)) (yes, that one again! :-) >> >> > >If you can't distinguish between message exchanges / interactions / >operations, then what good are they? See my recent message to Amy [1]. > And also [2]. > >The fact that "interfaces" happen to combine "operations", and that you >COULD if you wanted to then map those "interfaces" to things that look >like objects/classes, is, while true, orthogonal to the desire to >utilize and identify the operations themselves. > >--Glen > >[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Feb/0176.html > > > > [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Feb/0181.html -- Umit Yalcinalp Consulting Member of Technical Staff ORACLE Phone: +1 650 607 6154 Email: umit.yalcinalp@oracle.com
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