- From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
- Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:00:24 -0800
- To: <www-ws-desc@w3.org>
0. Dial in information (members only) [.1]:
See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents and other
information, and the private page [.3] for administrative matters.
If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list
before the start of the telcon.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Nov/0010.html
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin
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Agenda
1. Assign scribe. Lucky minute taker for this week is:
Sandeep Kumar, (fallbacks: Erik Ackerman, Igor Sedukhin,
Steve Lind, Adi Sakala, Allen Brookes, Glen Daniels,
Jerry Thrasher, David Booth, Jeffrey Schlimmer, Amy Lewis)
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2. Approval of minutes:
- Oct 30th telcon [.1].
- Nov 3-5 FTF [.2, .3, .4] and Summary [.5]
[.1]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/att-0346/2003103
0wsdl.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Nov/0059.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Nov/0060.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Nov/0061.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Nov/0062.html
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3. Review of Action items [.1].
? 2003-07-31: Philippe to make a proposal for fixing the
HTTP binding.
? 2003-09-11: Philippe to write a response to Mark Baker
proposing a property solution to HTTP verbs
and ask whether this satisfies his request.
? 2003-09-18: Marsh to review the QA operational
guidelines.
DONE [.2] 2003-09-23: Roberto, Glen: provide a counterproposal to
the current proposal for endpoint references.
? 2003-10-09: Bijan to look into message extensibility
Issues (Appendix E, Jacek's review) wrt RDF data,
and discuss with Jacek.
DONE [.3] 2003-10-09: Sanjiva: send email explaining rational for
pattern inference.
? 2003-10-16: Amy to provide a use-case for cyclical includes.
? 2003-10-23: Part2_Editors to clarify wording in
fault-replaces-message rule that a fault is
GENERATED but not necessarily SENT.
DONE [.4] 2003-10-30: Umit to resend the RPC rules split the two buckets
? 2003-11-03: Pauld to work out proposal for a top-level fault
in more detail.
? 2003-11-03: JeffM to propose text to the effect that messages
must conform to their schemas.
DONE [.5] 2003-11-03: Sanjiva to put note in spec for this round of
publication to reflect the decision of adopting
Roberto's proposal.
DONE [.6] 2003-11-03: Marsh put in future agenda for discussion on
TAG feedback on frag id.
? 2003-11-03: Umit (with help of Glen) will write up a proposal
for normative dispatching feature.
? 2003-11-04: Glen to write up rationale for removing headers
(and?) proposal for a generic header-adding
property/feature.
? 2003-11-04: Jacekk to make proposal on combining the get/set
style URIs into one.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0345.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0344.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Nov/0007.html
[.5]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl20/wsdl20.html#RPCS
tyle
[.6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Nov/0090.html
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4. Administrivia
a. Holiday telcon schedule:
Nov 13, 20, [27 Thanksgiving]
Dec 4, 11, 18, [25 Christmas]
Jan [1 New Years Day], 8, 15, 22, [29 FTF]
- Need sub for Nov 20th (AC meeting)
b. Upcoming FTFs
- January 26-30, Bedford, MA (Sonic)
WSArch 26-28(noon)
WSDesc 28(noon)-30
- March 1-2 or 4-5, Cannes-Mandelieu, France.
c. Publication
- Drafts published at [.1, .2]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-wsdl20-20031110
[.2] http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-wsdl20-patterns-20031110
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5. Task Force Status.
a. Properties and Features (dormant)
b. Patterns (dormant)
c. Attributes (dormant)
d. QA & Testing
- Response to comments on QA Spec Guidelines [.2]
- Implement QA Operational guidelines? [.3]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0023.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0074.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Sep/0023.html
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6. New Issues. Merged issues list [.1].
- Intermediaries (JJM) [.2]
- Merge FRM with MTF (Sanjiva - proposal has been dropped?) [.3]
- Add short scenario to MEPs (Amy) [.4]
- Schema for each MEP (Youenn) [.5]
- Should binding/operation/infault|outfault@messageReference be
optional? (Kevin) [.6]
[.1] http://tinyurl.com/mwuy
(Note that [.1] redirects to
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html)
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0331.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Nov/0003.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Nov/0070.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Nov/0064.html
[.6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Nov/0079.html
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7. Pattern inference [.1]
- Sanjiva proposes dropping redundant {direction} property from
the component model [.2]
- Did we decide this at the FTF?
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0172.html
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8. HTTP binding options [.1]
- option 1: drop HTTP binding
- option 2: input becomes POST body and output is POST response
- option 3: option 2 + GET goes to http:address URL and output is
GET response
- option 4: option 3 + rules to move all parameters into query
parameters for GET binding with MEP=in-out and
@style=rpc
- option 5: option 4 + URL replacement (not just query params)
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Nov/0048.html
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9. TAG feedback on WSDL component designators
- TAG finding [.1]
- RFC2396bis on fragment identifiers [.2]
- Jonathan's proposal [.3]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/abstractComponentRefs-20031030
[.2] http://gbiv.com/protocols/uri/rev-2002/rfc2396bis.html#fragment
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Nov/0090.html
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10. Ambiguous interface semantics (Mark Baker) [.2]
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0150.html
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11. Appendix E cleanup [.1]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0136.html
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12. Issue 64 [.1] Operations an HTTP verbs (Mark Baker) [.2, .3, .4]
- Jacek's synthesis [.5].
- Awaiting description from Philippe showing how properties or
extensions can be used to annotate the WSDL with RESTful
properties. Ask Mark for a definitive list of those properties
so we can consider how to associate them with property URIs or
namespaces.
[.1] http://tinyurl.com/mwuy#x64
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0094.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0103.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0111.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0095.html
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13. Using RDF in WSDL [.1].
Dependent upon RDF mapping first draft.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0076.html
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