- From: David Booth <dbooth@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 17:07:09 -0400
- To: "Jean-Jacques Moreau" <jean-jacques.moreau@crf.canon.fr>
- Cc: www-ws-desc@w3.org
Hi Jean-Jacques! Good comments. My responses are interspersed. At 10:24 AM 7/4/2003 +0200, Jean-Jacques Moreau wrote: >Good starting point. Some comments below. > >JJ. > >David Booth wrote: > >>wsdl:interface The (abstract) interface described by the >><wsdl:interface> element. It is a collection of wsdl:operations. The >>wsdl:interface defines how a client can interact with a wsdl:service >>through an agent that is accessed at a location identified by a >>wsdl:endpoint. > >To me, mentionning endpoint here removes the distinction between the >abstract and concrete layers in WSDL. Hmm. It seems to me that it's important to say how the abstract and concrete are related though. >>wsdl:service (a/k/a "Web service" or "service") The (abstract) >>service described by the <wsdl:service> element. It is accessed >>through a collection of endpoints, and (if we keep the >>wsdl:@targetResource attribute) it may manipulate some other resource >>that is identified by the wsdl:@targetResource. > >I think this last sentence should mention that manipulation happens >through the service's interface. > >Also, I think we should say a service provides the concrete implementation >for an interface, and is accessible via one or more endpoints. > >No mention of agent in this definition? Good ideas. How about the following rewording: [[ wsdl:service (a/k/a "Web service" or "service") The (conceptual) service described by the <wsdl:service> element. A wsdl:service has an associated collection of wsdl:endpoints and a wsdl:interface. The wsdl:endpoints specify the locations of one or more agents that (collectively) implement the wsdl:service. The associated wsdl:interface defines the set of operations that these agents (and thus the wsdl:service) support. These agents (and thus the wsdl:service) may also manipulate some other resource that is identified by the wsdl:@targetResource. ]] >>wsdl:endpoint The (abstract) thing that is described by the >><wsdl:endpoint> element. It provides a location for accessing a >>particular agent that is accessible via particular protocols >>described by its associated binding. > >s/binding/wsdl:binding/ > > > This agent is NOT assumed to be >>the same as the wsdl:service, since there may be several agents at >>different wsdl:endpoints corresponding to the same wsdl:service. > >This is confusing with the first definition above: "a client can interact >with a wsdl:service through an agent". > >>(The wsdl:service is more abstract than the agent.) However, >>interacting with such an agent (through a wsdl:endpoint) implies that >>you are interacing with the associated wsdl:service. > >Same comment as above. How about the following rewording: [[ wsdl:endpoint The (conceptual) thing that is described by the <wsdl:endpoint> element. It provides a location for accessing a particular agent that is accessible via particular protocols described by the wsdl:endpoint's associated wsdl:binding. This agent is not synonymous with the wsdl:service, since there may be several agents at different wsdl:endpoints that collectively implement a single wsdl:service. ]] >>wsdl:operation The (abstract) operation template described by the >><wsdl:operation> element. It is a template for a single interaction >>with the wsdl:service. > >I think operation should be defined in terms of messages, rather than just >interaction. How about: [[ wsdl:operation The (abstract) operation template described by the <wsdl:operation> element. It is a template for a single interaction, composed of one or more wsdl:messages, with a wsdl:service. ]] >We also possibly need an entry for a wsdl:message. I actually purposely avoided this one because (a) there didn't seem to be confusion around it; and (b) it raises the issue of distinguishing between a message template and a message instance. How about this: [[ wsdl:message The message template defined by the <wsdl:message> element. Note that when people talk casually about "sending a wsdl:message", what they usually mean is "sending a wsdl:message *instance*". ]] >>wsdl:binding The (abstract) association described by the >><wsdl:binding> element. It associates an (abstract) interface with >>transport and serialization details. > >OK. > >>wsdl:targetResource The (physical or conceptual) resource[2] >>identified by the wsdl:@targetResource attribute. Multiple >>wsdl:services that refer to the same wsdl:targetResource are assumed >>to "manipulate" the same resource, though what "manipulate" means is >>application- defined. The wsdl:targetResource is NOT assumed to be >>the same entity as the wsdl:service, though in some cases it could be >>the same entity. >>References >>1. Diagram: >>http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl12/wsdl12.html#serviceresfig1 >> >>2. RFC2396 def of "resource": http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2396.txt > >-- >David Booth >W3C Fellow / Hewlett-Packard >Telephone: +1.617.253.1273
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