- From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
- Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:46:50 -0800
- To: <www-ws-desc@w3.org>
[Added charter review item]
0. Dial in information (members only) [.1]:
See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents and other
information, and the private page [.3] for administrative matters.
If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list
before the start of the telcon.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Dec/0008.html
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin
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Agenda
1. Welcome new member: David Orchard, BEA Systems
Assign scribe. Lucky minute taker for this week is:
Sandeep Kumar, (fallbacks: Erik Ackerman, Igor Sedukhin,
Steve Lind, Adi Sakala, Allen Brookes,
Jerry Thrasher, David Booth, Amy Lewis)
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2. Approval of minutes:
- Nov 20th telcon [.1].
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Dec/0007.html
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3. Review of Action items [.1].
? 2003-07-31: Philippe to make a proposal for fixing the
HTTP binding.
? 2003-09-11: Philippe to write a response to Mark Baker
proposing a property solution to HTTP verbs
and ask whether this satisfies his request.
? 2003-09-18: Marsh to review the QA operational
guidelines.
? 2003-10-09: Bijan to look into message extensibility
Issues (Appendix E, Jacek's review) wrt RDF data,
and discuss with Jacek.
? 2003-10-23: Part2_Editors to clarify wording in
fault-replaces-message rule that a fault is
GENERATED but not necessarily SENT.
? 2003-11-03: Pauld to work out proposal for a top-level fault
in more detail.
? 2003-11-03: JeffM to propose text to the effect that messages
must conform to their schemas.
? 2003-11-03: Umit (with help of Glen) will write up a proposal
for normative dispatching feature.
? 2003-11-04: Glen to write up rationale for removing headers
(and?) proposal for a generic header-adding
property/feature.
DONE [.2] 2003-11-04: Jacekk to make proposal on combining the get/set
style URIs into one.
? 2003-11-13: Tibco\Amy to draft sample scenarios for MEPs.
? 2003-11-13: David to add discussion / example(s) re:
@schemaLocation for embedded schemas to the
primer.
? 2003-11-20: alewis to write up circular includes in specese.
? 2003-11-20: GlenD to write up Schemas in imported WSDL stuff
in
Specese.
? 2003-11-20: editors, add statement in specs recommending WSDL
authors make WSDL doc available at the
targetNamespace URI
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Nov/0164.html
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4. Administrivia
a. Holiday telcon schedule:
No telcons: Dec 25, Jan 1
Task list for remainder of year?
b. Upcoming FTFs
- January 26-30, Bedford, MA (Sonic) [.1]
WSArch 26-29(noon)
WSDesc 28(noon)-30
Please register! [.2]
Joint session topics: Usage scenarios document (NOTE)
- March 1-2 or 4-5, Cannes-Mandelieu, France.
Joint session with the TAG?
c. Joint TF with XMLP on representation of media types in XML. [.3]
d. Charter update review [.4]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/04-01-f2f.htm
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34650/WSAD0401/
[.3]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-protocol-wg/2003Nov/0022.htm
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[.4] http://www.w3.org/2003/12/ws-desc-charter.html
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5. Task Force Status.
a. Properties and Features (dormant)
b. Patterns (dormant)
c. Attributes (dormant)
d. QA & Testing
- Response to comments on QA Spec Guidelines [.2]
- Implement QA Operational guidelines? [.3]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0023.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0074.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Sep/0023.html
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6. New Issues. Merged issues list [.1].
- Additional intermediary issues (Ugo) [.2]
[.1] http://tinyurl.com/mwuy
(Note that [.1] redirects to
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html)
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Dec/0004.html
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7. Should binding/operation/infault|outfault@messageReference be
optional? (Kevin) [.1]
Jeffsch proposes to drop @messageReference [.2].
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Nov/0079.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Nov/0160.html
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8. Proposal: rename "asynch-output-input" (Amy) [.1]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Dec/0001.html
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9. Proposal for combining the two attribute operation styles to one
(Jacek) [.1]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Nov/0164.html
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10. HTTP binding options [.1]
- option 1: drop HTTP binding
- option 2: input becomes POST body and output is POST response
- option 3: option 2 + GET goes to http:address URL and output is
GET response
- option 4: option 3 + rules to move all parameters into query
parameters for GET binding with MEP=in-out and
@style=rpc
- option 5: option 4 + URL replacement (not just query params)
Continue thread from previous weeks.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Nov/0048.html
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11. Schemas in imported WSDL [.1]
- Seems to be agreement on the existing behavior as described by
Gudge and Amy. Still outstanding: do we add note along the lines
of Glen's suggestion: put text in the spec to the effect that WSDL
processors SHOULD make schema namespaces embedded in the <types>
sections of imported WSDLs available to their schema processors for
xs:import where possible.
Awaiting specese sample from Glen.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Nov/0109.html
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12. Appendix E cleanup [.1]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0136.html
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13. Issue 64 [.1] Operations an HTTP verbs (Mark Baker) [.2, .3, .4]
- Jacek's synthesis [.5].
- Awaiting description from Philippe showing how properties or
extensions can be used to annotate the WSDL with RESTful
properties. Ask Mark for a definitive list of those properties
so we can consider how to associate them with property URIs or
namespaces.
- Marking WSDL operations as "safe" (DaveO/TAG) [.3]
[.1] http://tinyurl.com/mwuy#x64
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0094.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0103.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0111.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0095.html
[.6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Nov/0104.html
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14. Using RDF in WSDL [.1].
Dependent upon RDF mapping first draft.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0076.html
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