- From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
- Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 15:15:43 -0700
- To: <www-ws-desc@w3.org>
[added 5a on obsolete issues]
0. Dial in information (members only) [.1]:
See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents and other
information, and the private page [.3] for administrative matters.
If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list
before the start of the telcon.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Apr/0051.html
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin
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Agenda
1. Assign scribe. Lucky minute taker for this week is:
Jeff Mischkinsky (fallbacks Umit Yalcinalp, Steve White,
Erik Ackerman, Lily Liu, Tom Jordahl, Jean-Jacques Moreau,
Don Mullen, Adi Sakala, Steve Lind)
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2. Approval of minutes of April 24 telcon [.1].
[.1]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/att-0097/minutes
_0424.html
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3. Review of Action items [.1].
? 2003-01-21: Roberto and gudge to create a branch and work up
a binding proposal based on referencing type
systems directly from operation components.
(Umit's example, Sanjiva's example, WSDL 1.1
example, and others.)
? 2003-03-04: Editors to discuss markup for testable assertions
in the spec and come back with a strategy.
? 2003-03-04: Jonathan to recruit a QA contact for the WG.
? 2003-03-04: Jonathan to recruit a test contact for the WG.
? 2003-03-13: Editors will find part 2 issues to dispatch
easily next telcon.
? 2003-03-13: Don will write a proposal for annotating schema
with part information.
? 2003-03-27: Philippe write up a proposal for embedding bindary
data types in schema
? 2003-04-10: Sanjiva to rewrite his proposal on bindings.
? 2003-04-17: Gudge dig out MIME type related parts of Proposed
Addendum to SOAP with Attachments proposal (as
sent to XMLP) and post to WSDesc Discussion list
? 2003-04-17: Sanjiva to take the lead on coordinating the
meeting on bindings the day before the F2F
? 2003-04-24: Jonathan to get somebody from OWL to talk to
the working group.
? 2003-04-24: Jacek to look at OWL and report back to the
working group.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions
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4. Administrivia
a. May FTF [.1] - look for first draft agenda this week.
Probable joint session 1/2 day.
Do we want to go till 5 on Wed?
b. July FTF. WHO has cancelled SARS warning - no plans to relocate.
c. Sept FTF [.1]
d. TF status
e. OWL last call review [.3]
f. Schema subset feedback [.4]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2003/ws/desc/3/05/f2fMayLogistics.htm
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Apr/0049.html
[.3] http://www.w3.org/TR/owl-features/
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-cg/2003Apr/0010.html
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5. New Issues. Merged issues list [.1].
- Kevin: "recursive" interface inheritance [.2]
- Arthur: R085, Relative URIs, and XML Base [.3]
[.1]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/0155.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/0142.html
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5a. Obsolete issues. The editors suggest the following issues are
obsolete and request the WG blessing to close them:
7 Example incorrectly uses xsd:binary
9 Example misses "Soap"
10 Example 3 element order bug
11 Bug in grammar for <import>
50 SOAP examples declare arrays using an old schema definition
70 Error in HTTP GET/POST example
In addition, the following issues have been closed per the spec or ed
todo list, but not closed in the issues document:
issue allow nonxml typesystems Allow non-XML type systems?
24 Real difference between literal vs. encoded?
25 Unclear relationship between XML Schemas and SOAP data model
13 Parameter Order missing from schema
22 Specification not XML Infoset based
16 Does a binding have to specify all the operations in a portType?
20 Inconsistency in definition of soap:header' (contains 'part' or
'parts' attribute?)
49 Inconsistency in "soap:header" specification
51 Asymmetry between soap:body and soap:header
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6. Proposal for restricting a service to a single interface [.1]. Some
parts of the question:
- What is the motivation for the proposal? (Not clear from the
archive)
- Should we make clear that a <service> represents a single
entity (i.e. ultimate destination node in SOAP parlance)?
- How do we indicate that ports within a service are alternatives?
Don't we already have this information through
port -> binding -> interface?
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/0069.html
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7. R085 Describing endpoint references. [.1]
[.1]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/att-0088/R085-20
03-04-22.html
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8. Multiple endpoints with the same interface [.1]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/0052.html
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9. Issue 2: SOAPAction has been deprecated, as of SOAP 1.2 [.1].
Jean-Jacques proposal at [.2].
Jacek's addendum at [.3].
Proposal from Glen at [.4], fix from JJM at [.5]. Undecided on
whether to allow WSDL 1.1 syntax, PnF syntax, or both.
Waiting for guidelines from PnF TF.
Alternate (?) proposal from JJM to allow arbitrary setting of HTTP
Header fields [.6]
Is "FnP for HTTP binding and SOAP HTTP binding" [.7] a friendly
Amendment or an alternative proposal?
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x2
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Sep/0050.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Sep/0056.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/0010.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/0022.html
[.6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/0028.html
[.7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/0025.html
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10. BindingType proposal from Kevin [.1]. Updated proposal at [.2].
Sanjiva's alternative at [.3].
Awaiting updated proposal from Sanjiva.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Aug/0009.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0068.html
[.3]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jul/att-0117/01-bind
ings-2002-07-24.html
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12. Issues 53-55 [.1]
- Philippe's proposal for HTTP binding [.2].
Generally accepted. Philippe will continue to polish the proposal for
discussion at the FTF, after which we expect to roll it into the
spec.
[.1]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html#
x53
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0068.html
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13. Moving MIME Type Information to the Interface [.1]
Awaiting proposal from Philippe.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0028.html
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14. Removing message. Umit's posting on the value of part as an
abstract concept of WSDL [.1]. Sanjiva asks for more rationale
as to why his proposal did not fly [.2], and suggests that
inheritance and overloading go together [.3]. Roberto's original
proposal at [.4]. Direction suggested by Dale [.5]
Postponed until we have a little better idea of what our bindings
will look like. Gudge's responses [.6, .7] to Umit's examples [.8]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Feb/0011.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Feb/0020.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Feb/0014.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Nov/0035.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Dec/0040.html
[.6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0006.html
[.7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0013.html
[.8] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Feb/0005.html
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15. Patterns.
a. Waiting on framing of the issue by the Patterns task force.
b. Soliciting rationale for each pattern [.1]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0016.html
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