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RE: Crossreferencing the spec list with Apache's

From: Cutler, Roger (RogerCutler) <RogerCutler@chevrontexaco.com>
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 13:01:25 -0600
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To: "Michael Champion" <mc@xegesis.org>, www-ws-arch@w3.org

You are correct.  Obviously David and Hugo must decide this.  If I were
in their position a statement like, "because we definitely would have
done so last Wednesday had we been aware of ..." would make me
uncomfortable -- but I am, mercifully, not in their position.  Maybe I'm
trying to be too careful.

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Subject: Re: Crossreferencing the spec list with Apache's

On Feb 1, 2004, at 1:31 PM, Cutler, Roger (RogerCutler) wrote:

> Having said that, I think I might support putting a link to this list
> in
> the Appendix, with some text like, "Another list of Web services
> specifications may be found at ...".  I say, however, "think".  It 
> makes
> me nervous that this seems to be getting perilously close to "adding
> modifying content", which I think is a serious no-no at this point.  
> Are
> we endorsing this list?

Not any more than we're endorsing yours.  As I recall, there is quite a 
disclaimer about your list in Appendix A.  I'm just suggesting that we 
make that plural and point to the Apache one as well, because it *is* a 
living document.  Without any endorsement, of course.

> Actually, now that I have thought more about it, I regret to say that 
> I think putting in such a link is on the wrong side of the line, and 
> that drawing and maintaining that line is really important.

IMHO there's no line,  there's no working group.  And no chair, and I 
have no more say in this than anyone on this list :-)   I would suggest 
that David and Hugo, using their de facto authority as publishers of 
the document, put a link to the Apache list as a service to our readers 
because we definitely would have done so last Wednesday had we been 
aware of the Apache list.  They can put as many disclaimers as they 

I guess an alternative would be for those of us who wish to have some 
continuing role in organizing our collective thoughts about the 
architectural implications of WS and SOA setup a FAQ list or a Wiki or 

1. Q: "I'm confused about all the %*&^%* "web services" specs.  Is 
there a complete list somewhere?"
     A: The best you'll find is 
(But it changes frequently, you might want to subscribe to 
http://www.dehora.net/rss/wsasf-rss10.xml). Use this and all other such 
lists with extreme caution; they contain a mixture of real de facto 
standards, protostandards that are being actively developed, 
interesting  proposals that are getting serious consideration, and pure 
marketing fluff.
Received on Sunday, 1 February 2004 14:02:01 UTC

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