- From: Cutler, Roger (RogerCutler) <RogerCutler@chevrontexaco.com>
- Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 12:31:36 -0600
- To: "Michael Champion" <mc@xegesis.org>, www-ws-arch@w3.org
I am not willing to take on the task of keeping that list a living document. That would be a LOT of work. Consequently, I have been pretty stubborn about saying, essentially, "That was a snapshot at a particular time and even at that time it was imperfect. Y'all had plenty of chance to contribute." In other words, at the time that I was posting requests for input I was very receptive to this sort of thing, now I am not. Just me, personally. Having said that, I think I might support putting a link to this list in the Appendix, with some text like, "Another list of Web services specifications may be found at ...". I say, however, "think". It makes me nervous that this seems to be getting perilously close to "adding or modifying content", which I think is a serious no-no at this point. Are we endorsing this list? Does this list have aspects which are problems -- would have been problems -- for any of the former members of the former working group? Actually, now that I have thought more about it, I regret to say that I think putting in such a link is on the wrong side of the line, and that drawing and maintaining that line is really important. It's a shame we didn't know about that link when we were writing the appendix -- but frankly I think it's a shame that some other portions of the document could not have been made better. I am particularly unhappy about one section that I feel a strong stake in and I think could very easily be improved very substantially because there are two things being mixed together that should be, and could easily be, made distinct -- but that's just the way the cookie crumbles. I think we just have to bite the bullet and resist all temptations to mess with it at this point. -----Original Message----- From: www-ws-arch-request@w3.org [mailto:www-ws-arch-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Michael Champion Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 9:26 AM To: 'www-ws-arch@w3.org ' Subject: Crossreferencing the spec list with Apache's I did a quick crosscheck between the list of specs now at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-arch/2003Dec/0058.html and that at http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?WebServicesSpecifications Anyway, the ones I find the the Apache list that aren't in ours include: [WS-ActiveProfile]: The WS-Federation specification defines an integrated model for federating identity, authentication and authorization across different trust realms. This specification defines how the federation model is applied to active requestors such as SOAP applications. [WS-Inspection]: is an XML format for assisting in the inspection of a site for available services. [WS-PassiveProfile] describes how the cross trust realm identity, authentication and authorization federation mechanisms defined in WS-Federation can be utilized used by passive requestors such as Web browsers to provide Identity Services. Passive requesters of this profile are limited to the HTTP protocol. [WS-EndpointResolution]: A set of Web service mechanisms that support selecting a specific endpoint for an operation or message from a set of allowed candidates. This is particularly useful in server farms and mobile environments. [WS-Manageability]: introduces the general concepts of a manageability model in terms of manageability topics and the aspects used to define them. [WS-Privacy] : will describe a model for how Web services and requesters state privacy preferences and organizational privacy practice statements. [WS-Referral]: is a SOAP-based, stateless protocol for inserting, deleting, and querying routing entries in a SOAP router. OK, enough of this! The bottom line is that even people who spend more or less full time trying to track this stuff can't keep up (ahem, which was the reason the W3C chartered WSA in the first place). Maybe the best way forward is to link to the Apache list along with ours (in the Appendix?). Since that is a Wiki and presumably editable (and there is an owner one can ping for updates), perhaps someone might synch the Roger/Paul list to Apache's. Whether someone here does it, someone seeing the Appendix with both our lists and the link to Apache's does it, or whatever, is not important. Thoughts on this, especially from Roger and Paul, would be appreciated. I wouldn't object if someone updated our list and we asked David to link to the update, but I'm not sure if this would serve any useful purpose. I do think we should revise Appendix A to add a link to http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?WebServicesSpecifications along with our list, because ours will quickly be obsolete and that will presumably be maintained.
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